[Tonatiuh]

I know that brilliance of the sound of a mouthpiece depends on the embochure technique, the reed, ligature, etc. but. Supousing the same saxophonist..which one would be more brilliante? Dukkoff or Jody Jazz DV?

 

[benjamin1979]

in terms of brightness and cutting thru definately a dukoff D chamber. jodyjazz dv is just a medium bright mpc with big and spread sound.( which is good depends wat u want). jj dv got good consistency while dukoff is not

 

[soprano]

I have both....Dukoff D surely has the much more piercing brightness than JodyDV. Even for Dukoff M chamber, it is still brighter than DV(well, admittedly, I only tried M chamber several times in local shops) . But DV is easier to play (perhaps related to lower baffle and so-called secondary window) and more consistent than Dukoff as Benjamin mention. Since I have played Dukoff more than 2 decades and control with ease, I really regret to buy DV......As many SOTWers emphasize many times, really try before you buy and don't believe advertisement.

 

[Tonatiuh]

Excuse my bad English... what do you mean when you say: "JJDV is more consistent"?

 

[Phil1]

in terms of brightness and cutting thru definately a dukoff D chamber. jodyjazz dv is just a medium bright mpc with big and spread sound.( which is good depends wat u want). jj dv got good consistency while dukoff is not

I play a DV on tenor and you're the first one to say it's medium bright. I guess everything is relative.

 

[MojoBari]

Excuse my bad English... what do you mean when you say: "JJDV is more consistent"?

You only need to try one JJDV. Each one is made virtually the same. Dukoffs can vary a lot. You may get a good one or a bad one so you may need to try several (or have one hand finished by a refacer).

 

[evan1]

I have both....Dukoff D surely has the much more piercing brightness than JodyDV. Even for Dukoff M chamber, it is still brighter than DV(well, admittedly, I only tried M chamber several times in local shops) . But DV is easier to play (perhaps related to lower baffle and so-called secondary window) and more consistent than Dukoff as Benjamin mention. Since I have played Dukoff more than 2 decades and control with ease, I really regret to buy DV......As many SOTWers emphasize many times, really try before you buy and don't believe advertisement.

Ive always wanted to try a dukoff, especially on tenor. They seem like theyd sound bright but good. Do you still use the dukoff on soprano ?

 

[jlima]

JJ over (modern) Dukoff any day.

 

[evan1]

Jilma what is the difference ?

 

[NissanVintageSax]

I haven't had a chance to try either on soprano, but what I use is in the same ballpark: metal Rovner Deep V #6 (no longer made for soprano). It has the huge window like the JJ (pre-dates it), but has a very basic square chamber! Now, usually I'm not a square chamber fan, but when something works, you don't ask why! This has worked so well for me for so long, I don't feel the need to try anything else .

 

[jlima]

Jilma what is the difference ?

As has been said, the quality of modern Dukoffs is very inconsistent. The ones I have tried tended to squeak and they had a thin, excessively bright tone. Jody Jazz, on the other hand, are generally of very high quality and they are consistent. They also have a fatter sound. The only thing that I don't like too much about them is that they are very unidimensional, meaning that they sound great but they only give you one type of sound, they don't let you shape the sound. But still, I prefer them to Dukoffs.

 

[soprano]

Ive always wanted to try a dukoff, especially on tenor. They seem like theyd sound bright but good. Do you still use the dukoff on soprano ?

I mainly use D10 and D9 on soprano and D9 on tenor. As Jlima mentioned, Dukoffs squeaked, very thin in the very beginning, I really needed SEVERAL YEARS to tame Dukoffs through hard-practice of overtone, altissimo, long tone and also circular breathing( well, don't throw eggs on me). Different kinds of sound can be easily done through different voicing.

 

[evan1]

So Sop can I hear you on either instrument. Do you have sound files anywhere ?

 

[NissanVintageSax]

I mainly use D10 and D9 on soprano and D9 on tenor. As Jlima mentioned, Dukoffs squeaked, very thin in the very beginning, I really needed SEVERAL YEARS to tame Dukoffs through hard-practice of overtone, altissimo, long tone and also circular breathing( well, don't throw eggs on me). Different kinds of sound can be easily done through different voicing.

No mouthpiece should be that much work! Do some mouthpieces "grow on you"? Sure, but several years? I had a Tenor mouthpiece like that once (a silver plated brass RIA 6*) that played like a dog, but sounded so good on playback I hated to sell it. Finally sold it after playing a few other pieces that required less work to play, and sounded just as good (and are far easier to control!).