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I tried out a vandoren v16 t75 today and completely loved it. Tone was almost exactly what I was looking for. Before I buy, I was just wondering to be safe whether there are any advantages of the other size options, particulary the t77, which I understand has a slightly larger tip opening and a longer facing. I felt that the t75 was the perfect tip opening for me, and because it is so close to the t77, what does the facing length do if it is longer?

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Michael

(sorry if I seem naive about mpcs :? , I'm kinda new to it all :D)

EDIT: it's the metal V16, not the HR
 

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I'm no expert when it comes to mpc's (or anything else for that matter) but I do know that it is all personal preference, so if you felt that the t75 was the perfect tip opening for you stick with it. But I would recommend (as I'm sure most of the more experienced SOTW members would) to try them both and choose which ever one you prefer.
 

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I have played, and still have, both the 75 and the 95. In terms of ease of playing I find very little difference. The longer table in the 95 offsets the wider tip opening. I tried a 77 but couldn't get it to play which I found very odd. The only reason I could come up with was that it was badly made, but that also seems odd as Vandorens are usually well made.

In terms of tone I found the 95 sounded somewhat thicker, a denser tone but one that didn't project as well for me. In the end I found the 75 too bright with too little depth and the 95 not bright enough. I was hoping the 77 would bridge the gap as it seems to do for others. The usual caveats apply of course, horn, embouchure etc. The V16 is a good mouthpiece, if you can try a 77 then I would but, otherwise, if you like the 75 go for it. There are quite a lot of other discussions about the merits of the V16 and especially the 77 so do a search.
 

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I love these pieces and have tried several of them (a dozen of T75 and a couple of T95 and T77). The T77 felt also weired to me compared to the T75/T95 but I can't remember why. I'm now keeping a T75 as backup to my Lebayle.

However all are different within the same model range so I would recommend to try as many as you can.
 

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I was always under the impression that the 77 was more akin to a Link STM NY and the other models were more like regular Link STM pieces. I thought the 77 had a slightly larger chamber...
 

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Hi, thanks for all of the responses. I ordered the T75 this morning from wwbw with the Optimum lig and it should be here in the next couple of days. Normally I think I would try out the other one if I was less sure, but after coming out of the store, the V16 was definitely my favorite, with a link STM 8 coming in second, and a Ponzol in third. The ease and response of the piece really did it for me (not to mention the tone: bright, yet warm enough to really be versatile). I'll share more findings after I actually get the piece.

~Michael
 

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I played on a v16 t75 for about 3 years before moving to a t77 which I've played on for about 2 years now. To my ears, the t77 has better response and tone in the lower register, while being a bit more squirrelly in the upper. I believe this is a common characteristic of a longer facing. The t77 also has a bit more edge on top of the basic t75 tone. I had started to mess around with wax baffles in my t75 as I wanted more edge and power for funk and fusion type music. The t75 was damaged in a drop, so I bought a t77 and since then I haven't had any urge to mess around with baffles. The t77 gives me all the edge I could ever want, but still lets me play relatively dry if I concentrate. If you like the mouth feel of the t75 there is hardly any difference at all with the t77. I use an optimum ligature which works perfectly. I will eventually get the t75 repaired/refaced with an eye towards slightly darkening its tone and then I'll be set with two almost identical mouthpieces which facilitate two different tonal concepts.
 
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