Thanks Tharruff, So the Selmer US style logo was put on all horns made in Paris and during the German occupation irrespective of whether they were destined for the US market? Presume there were no exports to the US from France in 1941 but maybe that will all have stopped in early 1942 when US troops joined in the European theatre?PS: Below is the Selmer USA logo during the timeframe that your Sax was made. This logo is not stamped on your bell (or on mine either).
PPS: You are very fortunate if your Sax has good intonation for the bell notes...mine does not.
Great that you love the voice of it so much. And there's something incredibly comfy about the design of the BA. Voice + really good ergonomics counts for a lot! I sold my perfectly tuned Leblanc Rationale that was super accurate along with a Ref 36 that tuned just as well in order to stump up for my BA. In the case of the Leblanc I wasn't so comfortable with the feel under the fingers and the Ref 36 was very good but I prefer the voice of the BA.Maybe the bell keys are a little off but the way the sax seems to speak faster than my Mark VI out weighs them be a little sharp.
Balanced Actions were made under occupation so weren't about to be shipped out to export markets during the war. On my BA tenor 29XXX (1941) the bell is nevertheless under stamped with Selmer US details. Why would that have been done? Does anybody know the back story?
Which is what I thought originally when posting the thread. De facto the USA under-stamp would only have been put on the bell for those instruments destined for export to the USA. There was a different understamp for the UK at the time. Doug's explanation that my BA was started before occupation but finished after and therefore not exported as originally intended but sold to a shop in Northern France makes great sense and we think the horn never left the area it was first delivered to in '41.
Interesting.... my BA does not have the USA Selmer stamp or any engraving at all.
Wow, thanks for the info Doug. I wasn't expecting that at all. That would make it two months before Germany invaded, must have been some interesting times in France.Lester, according to the Selmer Paris archives, your saxophone does not have an Elkhart stamp because it was originally a European-market instrument. It shipped in March 1940 to a store in Paris by the name of Frichet.
Nice thought Lester, and so in the same way connects me to my late father, who had visited the Cotton Club in 1936 aged 17 and who joined up in 1938 before demobbing in '45, some time after having landed in France as part of the Allied forces (as a British navy officer and part of the team who designed the Mulberry harbours that were deployed for the invasion of Normandy in '44).I really love these old horns, it's like a connection into the daily lives of my grand parents generation.
This may be a stupid question, but were horns with the Selmer USA/Elkhart stamp always destined for the US market? My 40xxx SBA has that stamp, but I suppose it could have been imported back to Europe at some point. It does, however, have the high F# and I seem to remember reading somewhere that this option was more common on saxes intended for the European market?Lester, according to the Selmer Paris archives, your saxophone does not have an Elkhart stamp because it was originally a European-market instrument. It shipped in March 1940 to a store in Paris by the name of Frichet.
By the way have you tried setting the key heights high? Surprised how high they go for BA to speak as well as it can, and for tuning to be excellent in bell keys. Maybe I'm just lucky with mine but maybe worth a try? Let me know if you want posted pics of my pad settings.My 1938 BA tenor has the same stamping. Maybe the bell keys are a little off but the way the sax seems to speak faster than my Mark VI out weighs them be a little sharp. It’s fun to have something different than the Mark VI I’ve had forever.
I don’t do a lot of honking on low Bs and B flats so I’m ok if they’re not perfectly in tune.