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accordying to the descripción of the Selmer Supreme sax :
•. Strong projection due to enlarged Bore at the s-Bow
  • Adjustable, concentric 3-point S-bow receiver
  • Nickel silver S-bow clamping ring.
it looks like this is one of the main redesigns of the Selmer sax.
Does it mean also that the neck diameter has changed respect to another Selmer necks ?
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Looks like a lot of marketing drivel.
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Buttons are plastic or real mop ??
Look for the YouTube reviews. The clamp on the tenon is free floating and there’s another notch in the receiver to get a tighter fit.
How exciting to see that it has a “Little finger mechanism”.

What about those of us with big hands???
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please , View this review , and particularly see between 4:28 and 4:45....
Selmer changed the inner diameter at the enter (mouthpiece side) and also at the exit of the neck.
accordying to the descripción of the Selmer Supreme sax :
•. Strong projection due to enlarged Bore at the s-Bow
  • Adjustable, concentric 3-point S-bow receiver
  • Nickel silver S-bow clamping ring.
it looks like this is one of the main redesigns of the Selmer sax.
Does it mean also that the neck diameter has changed respect to another Selmer necks ?
In an absence of data (measurements), one is left to conjecture. Yes, one might infer that the neck geometry is changed.

Nice review. If I were shopping for a new horn, I’d be curious enough to play one. It sounds almost as good as the horn I currently play.
According to Selmer the neck diameter is larger:
  • New bore in the neck, with increased entrance and exit diameters for more projection and a fuller sound.
I have never heard of an 'S-Bow' - they are using that term to describe the neck and clamp collar area.
I have never heard of an 'S-Bow' - they are using that term to describe the neck and clamp collar area.
I think they are referring to what used to be called the neck. The body is now called ”that long conical thingie between the two bent parts”.
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Well, I went to see where this 'S-Bow" was mentioned, and I don't see it anywhere from the Selmer Paris website. Perhaps this is a dealer's description and they took some liberties with their verbiage.

However, I did notice a very important detail. It appears Selmer heard the complaints about price :LOL:
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(Clearly an error, it corrected when I revisited the site, but I had this up briefly!: Henri SELMER Paris - Supreme tenor saxophone)
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What is a “directly coupled driver for right hand F#/F?” Jay Metcalf mentioned in his review some sort of F# adjustment screw being new in this model, but I thought that Selmer saxophones already had F# adjustment screws.
Well, I went to see where this 'S-Bow" was mentioned, and I don't see it anywhere from the Selmer Paris website. Perhaps this is a dealer's description and they took some liberties with their verbiage.
My guess is the OP was looking at the Spanish version of the site, and S-bow is simply a bad translation. But that seems to be a valid term for the neck in some other languages, although a bit of a misnomer, especially if you're talking about any sax but tenor.

Loving that price though!
What is a “directly coupled driver for right hand F#/F?” Jay Metcalf mentioned in his review some sort of F# adjustment screw being new in this model, but I thought that Selmer saxophones already had F# adjustment screws.
Again, just a poor translation. From the english language page, it makes sense:
Direct adjustment arm between the right hand F# and F keys, allowing for finer, more reliable adjustment.
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My only Selmer experience is with the Mk VI, VII, and SA80, but back then they didn't have an F# adjustment screw.

But continued scrutiny of the original post is pointless due to the nonsensical translation.

I think the OP simply wants to know if a Supreme neck will fit his old horn. It will not.
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My guess is the OP was looking at the Spanish version of the site, and S-bow is simply a bad translation. But that seems to be a valid term for the neck in some other languages, although a bit of a misnomer, especially if you're talking about any sax but tenor.

Loving that price though!
Again, just a poor translation. From the english language page, it makes sense:
Direct adjustment arm between the right hand F# and F keys, allowing for finer, more reliable adjustment.
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My only Selmer experience is with the Mk VI, VII, and SA80, but back then they didn't have an F# adjustment screw.

But continued scrutiny of the original post is pointless due to the nonsensical translation.

I think the OP simply wants to know if a Supreme neck will fit his old horn. It will not.
please , View this review , and particularly see between 4:28 and 4:45....
Selmer changed the inner diameter at the enter (mouthpiece side) and also at the exit of the neck.
Nice review of Selmer's newest Tenor. If I were in the market for a new sax, I would definitely give it a try. But for now my MarkIV and SA80II are working fine for me. I am interested in the neck fitment question between it and the older horns. I do know that my SA80II neck does not work in my MkIV...a little too loose.
I have never heard of an 'S-Bow' - they are using that term to describe the neck and clamp collar area.
S Bow is a direct translation of S bogen which is the German name of the " neck" .

French call it Bocal and Italians ( I am one too ) and no-one knows why, call it " chiver" (pronounced chipper or Kiver)
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S Bow is a direct translation of S bogen which is the German name of the " neck" .

French call it Bocal and Italians ( I am one too ) and no-one knows why, call it " chiver" (pronounced chipper or Kiver)
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Buttons are plastic or real mop ??
Was there ever anyone who made the buttons out of a real "wipe-the-floor" mop (i.e., plastic or wood) instead of real mother-of-pearl?
Thomann.de's translation are not super accurate.


Does it mean also that the neck diameter has changed respect to another Selmer necks ?
The neck on the Supreme has a similar bore compared to other Selmer neck, yet the neck profile is similar to a Series III/Axos tenor.

The neck collar is wider, so the Supreme tenor neck does NOT fit on any other Selmer tenor, unless you remove the stock neck collar and replace with another one with a standard diameter (27,45/27,50 mm, before final fitting).




accordying to the descripción of the Selmer Supreme sax :
•. Strong projection due to enlarged Bore at the s-Bow
  • Adjustable, concentric 3-point S-bow receiver
  • Nickel silver S-bow clamping ring.
it looks like this is one of the main redesigns of the Selmer sax.
Does it mean also that the neck diameter has changed respect to another Selmer necks ?

Tenor Saxophone in Bb
  • Dark gold lacquer
  • Strong projection due to enlarged bore at the S-bow
  • New bore and tone hole scale
  • Completely optimised ergonomics
  • Adjustable, concentric 3-point S-bow receiver
  • Nickel silver S-bow clamping ring
  • Directly coupled driver for right hand F#/F
  • Octave mechanism with Teflon bearings
  • Little finger mechanism
  • Left hand with new articulated lever
  • Metal thumb rest for left and right hand
  • Leather pad with special resonators without rivets
  • Metal thumb rest
  • Incl. "Supreme Case" with backpack set and Selmer "Concept" mouthpiece (with ligature and capsule)
Yes,

Doesn't look like their site pricing is that stable?

See this?

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Yes,

Doesn't look like their site pricing is that stable?

See this?

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It almost tripled overnight ... up to the princely sum of $29.22
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