I bought my S-80 in 1974. It came out just before the MkVII.bruce bailey said:I am not sure when the ones with soloist on them stopped but the scroll shank "soloist style" stopped about 1980 when the s-80 was introduced. It think the short shank soloist gave way to the long shank about 1965-66.
I don't pretend to be a 'nino expert, but if the chamber is horseshoe shaped, I would think that it is some flavor of soloist or soloist style. Square would be an S80. Round would be an LT (larry Teal) type.bbbouklas said:thanx for the info..![]()
but let me rephrase my questions into a single one:
am looking to buy a nino selmer mpc that I saw for sale, the seller says it was bought in the early 70s and has it no markings (no "soloist" or s80, just "selmer C*).. what does this makes it?? it has no scroll work on the shank but I guess it is too small to have any.
thanx again![]()
The only thing I noticed that is (cosmetically) different between my vintage and modern Selmer 'nino mpcs is the tip-rail curve. I'm sitting in an airport otherwise I'd check, but I'm pretty sure that the modern ones have a straighter (more squared-off) tip-rail and the vintage have a more curved. I believe the chambers look the same (to my untrained eyes), but the vintage one plays better. I will check when I finally get home, but I think that they all have round chambers. (I have a vintage E and modern D and E.)bbbouklas said:thanx for the info..![]()
but let me rephrase my questions into a single one:
am looking to buy a nino selmer mpc that I saw for sale, the seller says it was bought in the early 70s and has it no markings (no "soloist" or s80, just "selmer C*).. what does this makes it?? it has no scroll work on the shank but I guess it is too small to have any.
thanx again![]()
Do you think that they just didn't redesign to the horseshoe chamber, because of they didn't expect to sell/manufacture that many?Little Sax said:The only thing I noticed that is (cosmetically) different between my vintage and modern Selmer 'nino mpcs is the tip-rail curve. I'm sitting in an airport otherwise I'd check, but I'm pretty sure that the modern ones have a straighter (more squared-off) tip-rail and the vintage have a more curved. I believe the chambers look the same (to my untrained eyes), but the vintage one plays better. I will check when I finally get home, but I think that they all have round chambers. (I have a vintage E and modern D and E.)
FWIW - The yani mpcs play better, but I'm also playing on a yani 'nino.
I've never seen a horseshoe-chamber in a Selmer mpc smaller than an alto. I have an oval-chamber scroll-shank sop mpc, and I've seen several round-chamber scroll-shank sop mpcs. These three 'nino mpcs I've mentioned are the only Selmer 'nino mpcs that I've had a chance to hold so I don't know if they're representative or anomalies.hakukani said:Do you think that they just didn't redesign to the horseshoe chamber, because of they didn't expect to sell/manufacture that many?
Hmmm. Interesting. They do manufacture an S80 with a square chamber for soprano. I wonder why they didn't go to a horseshoe on the soloists (not that the horseshoe is a great design).Little Sax said:I've never seen a horseshoe-chamber in a Selmer mpc smaller than an alto. I have an oval-chamber scroll-shank sop mpc, and I've seen several round-chamber scroll-shank sop mpcs. These three 'nino mpcs I've mentioned are the only Selmer 'nino mpcs that I've had a chance to hold so I don't know if they're representative or anomalies.
I have a few S80 sop mpcs that I used to play, but I've found mpcs that play better. I'm actually surprised that the 'nino mpcs weren't square-chambered.hakukani said:Hmmm. Interesting. They do manufacture an S80 with a square chamber for soprano. I wonder why they didn't go to a horseshoe on the soloists (not that the horseshoe is a great design).
Going through this thread, I was getting a case of the 'ol GAS until I read this. Thanks for saving me the trouble.Little Sax said:FWIW - The yani mpcs play better, but I'm also playing on a yani 'nino.
I can see the expression on Ms. hakukani's face if I wanted to buy a 'nino!!!!EZ said:Going through this thread, I was getting a case of the 'ol GAS until I read this. Thanks for saving me the trouble.![]()
Already used that one on my piccolo.EZ said:I've got an Elimona nino with a few Yani mpcs - Looks like I'll skip the Selmer mpcs.
Get one - they are a hoot. Just tell her you left your soprano in the dryer too long.
No problem, but of course, YMMV...EZ said:Going through this thread, I was getting a case of the 'ol GAS until I read this. Thanks for saving me the trouble.![]()
BTW - I gave a few short sound-clips (Csop) to cmelodysax for his website. Right before I recorded them, I happened to have been evaluating all these 'nino mpcs so I sent him a clip of me with my Yani metal 7 as a comparison. He tossed it up there too. If you listen to it, excuse the intonation on the E3... I only sent the clip as something humorous.EZ said:Going through this thread, I was getting a case of the 'ol GAS until I read this. Thanks for saving me the trouble.![]()
I was able to look at all my Selmer 'nino mpcs. I did remember correctly; all of them have round chambers.Little Sax said:The only thing I noticed that is (cosmetically) different between my vintage and modern Selmer 'nino mpcs is the tip-rail curve. I'm sitting in an airport otherwise I'd check, but I'm pretty sure that the modern ones have a straighter (more squared-off) tip-rail and the vintage have a more curved. I believe the chambers look the same (to my untrained eyes), but the vintage one plays better. I will check when I finally get home, but I think that they all have round chambers. (I have a vintage E and modern D and E.)
FWIW - The yani mpcs play better, but I'm also playing on a yani 'nino.