That's very interesting, thanks very much!They are all manufactured in France. The ones for sale in America were shipped to the U.S in parts, unengraved and unlaqured. Engraved, laquered and assembled in U.S.
According to popular belief in the '60's when I bought mine, the difference was in the setup - the US horns generally set up with the keys further off the tone holes so that they got a bigger sound, while the French-Assembled horns had faster action and a more intimate sound.
but you shouldn't care to much about that. Being a american assembled doesn't mean that is better than a french one... it depends of the american and french in question... every mark vi is different from each other... do not fool yourself.That's very interesting, thanks very much!
Thanks man, but I'm well aware of that fact. I find it just interesting, that this rumor apparently has some reasonable background.but you shouldn't care to much about that. Being a american assembled doesn't mean that is better than a french one... it depends of the american and french in question... every mark vi is different from each other... do not fool yourself.
If so, then it's simply a matter of how the horn is set up, NOT a difference in the horn itself. In other words, 'better' set-up (assuming you like the bigger, more open sound; I do), not better horn.According to popular belief in the '60's when I bought mine, the difference was in the setup - the US horns generally set up with the keys further off the tone holes so that they got a bigger sound, while the French-Assembled horns had faster action and a more intimate sound.
Rumors are just that. rumors. A popular belief is popular, but not necessarily true or correct. It would be intersting if someone actually measured and compared the two (at the time) and made the results public; or Selmer published the differing specs (which would never happen). Even if it is true, an hour with a good tech and it'll be adjusted just the way you like it. The real difference, it seems, is that French assembled VI's were purchased with a lot more options selected, eg. high F#, engraving, no Engraving, nickel silver long side key rods, plated keys, etc.Thanks man, but I'm well aware of that fact. I find it just interesting, that this rumor apparently has some reasonable background.
+1 that's the question...and no one really cares with the answer, because it doesn't matterAmen, JL. If the horn has been played any of the last 30+ years, I would hope that the setup has been adjusted.
If neither finish nor engraving affect the sound, which would you rather buy? I prefer a plain silver plate tenor.
Cut and paste the URL.It ( wiki) also mentions that traditionallly the French market sax had a fleur de lys engraved on the bow, whereas the ones that were engraved in Elkhart did not.
I wish I would know how to bring the Wiki site on this thread, but, I just don't know how to do this.
Well that's patently WRONG.It also seems that the serial numbers start with the year of manufacturing, 54###### and not from zero.
Just to get clear, and thank you for your input, you felt the horn more resonant. The horn tone didn't changed, the horn resistance (airy) didn't changed and it didn't started playing louder or anything? maybe a stupid question i know, i do not know much about technician stuffThanks for recalling that bit about the body/bow joint, Thomas.
SaxT - I had the bow/body joint of my Ref 36 soldered when Randy Jones went through it. Granted, that was not the only thing done at the time but the net result of his work was a perceptible increase in resonance. And it wasn't just me. I didn't tell my quartet about the work on my horn but they all heard a big difference in the first rehearsal after I got the horn back - it just FILLED the room. OK, I'll take some credit as the player...
The operation is only risky if your tech has no experience doing the job - kinda like a hernia operation.
Perhaps you should investigate the source(s) of the various Wiki pages before giving them much credence. Much of the free knowledge on Wiki is worth exactly what you pay for it.Thanks for the replies,
I knew someone in here had to have experiences with both.
I always thought that Wiki got their info straight from a company; but who knows....