[thesaxman2014]

Hi,
I bought a mark VII for 300$ at a pawn shop. There was a Meyer NY USA in the bell. The horn definitely needs repairs but I don't know how much it will cost.How much I can sell it (overhauled) on ebay with the Meyer?

Thank you!!

 

[magical pig]

Anywhere from $2,000 to $3,000 depending on condition.

 

[Grumps]

Alto or tenor? There's a big difference there and you can't properly value such a horn without knowing which one it is. Also, if the Meyer NY-USA mouthpiece is for alto, it hasn't been altered and is otherwise in good shape, it could go for $600-$1,000 alone. So definitely sell the mouthpiece separately, even if it's for tenor (though if the Meyer is for tenor, it may only get you $200 tops)

 

[thesaxman2014]

It's a mark 7 alto. Same thing for the meyer.

 

[magical pig]

Oh, alto? Forget what I said then...

 

[spike421]

Considerably more than $300. Check Ebay completed sales for a stab at the value. My guess is $1400 +.

 

[AG]

it depends on what kind of shape it's in and what it needs in repairs.......can you post some pictures? the mouthpiece was a steal if unaltered & not damaged....the horn may be too if it's not in bad condition...like needing all new pads with dents & such. does the horn play, is it engraved? those Meyer NY USA's came in two versions, the older ones having a rounder inner chamber wall & the later ones having a sort of concave inner chamber wall. the tip size will matter as will the chamber size, most are mediums & a 5, any nicks in the tip or rails, bite marks on the beak.....I hate those. there are a lot of factors in determining value.

 

[milandro]

actually, over here, Mark VII altos are valued more or as much as the tenors. You have bought very well Sir and any money you invest in making this playable would be very well spent!

 

[dubrosa22]

Sad no one is talking about this VII being perhaps a great sounding horn. A keeper even.

Heck it isn't a VI but still there are gorgeous alto VIIs out there.

Just sayin'.

 

[milandro]

yes, keep it if you want to, I know I would........

 

[Steve Stockham]

I gotta say that a VII at $300 was a steal!! The Meyer alone will recoup you everything you paid! Umm..... by "definitely needs repairs," what, exactly, are you referring to? It's definitely possible to sink $2000-3000 in a total restoration! If you are looking for an investment, this may not be worth the effort. If, however, you are looking for a killer sax? Well, you may have something there! Find a GOOD tech to give it a proper going over and then you will have a better idea for what you'll want to do. (Heck, keep the Meyer and I'll take the VII off of your hands for $300! :friendhug: )

 

[milandro]

actually the most expensive overhaul that I know of in the States is +/-1500$ ( the überhaul.......at Music Medic), spending any more would be difficult (unless you want to goldplate and engrave it completely) and many think that even spending this much is madness.

Unless the horn is in a absolute mess and the previous owner had driven on it with a SUV, you should be able to get it playable at much less.

 

[thesaxman2014]

Hi,
The horn just needs some ajustments and some pads needs to be changed. I don't think that it will be too expensive.

 

[Grumps]

Unless you're a known dealer, even if you have a horn repaired prior to an E-Bay sale, it's not likely folks will believe you or bid higher for an item. If you've made your mind up to sell the horn online, then I wouldn't bother with repairs; just be honest that the horn may need some work. If you're going to try and sell locally, then fixing it up may be helpful to those wanting to test-play the horn. Either way you sell, you're going to make some serious profit due to how little you picked up the horn for. Just make sure to sell the mouthpiece separately and with lots of detailed, close-up photos (if selling online).

 

[AG]

it sounds like $400-$500 would put the horn in great playing shape or it would in my neck of the woods. have you considered keeping it? you certainly have a good mouthpiece for it. the VII altos are generally very good horns & do sound great IMHO. a good VII alto sells for about the same as a comparable Serie II, especially the earlier engraved ones as most think they are better due to the M before the serial number. are they? I doubt it, it's just more likely to have the engraving if it's an earlier one. I'm surprised you got the horn that cheap at a pawn shop as most do the research on instruments before they price them. somebody there obviously didn't unless the horn just looks skanky with a lot of lacquer wear & scratches. if you do sell it on ebay be up front about what it needs, you'll still make money, and you should do well on the mouthpiece too.

for for $300 I'd have bought it for parts if nothing else (probably over hauled it though) and kept the Meyer. that was one heck of a deal. it's why I visit pawn shops a lot....an old skanky beat up cheap horn might have a super good mouthpiece. I never get that lucky though.

 

[thesaxman2014]

Here's some pictures of the horn and the mouthpiece.

https://picasaweb.google.com/101916...hkey=Gv1sRgCJDPg6Sp98-HGA#5670205294842988370

https://picasaweb.google.com/101916...hkey=Gv1sRgCJDPg6Sp98-HGA#5670205646344560114

https://picasaweb.google.com/101916...hkey=Gv1sRgCJDPg6Sp98-HGA#5670205779081254818

https://picasaweb.google.com/101916...hkey=Gv1sRgCJDPg6Sp98-HGA#5670205898948162034

https://picasaweb.google.com/101916...hkey=Gv1sRgCMfzhsHIkKTsVA#5670206131898140178

https://picasaweb.google.com/101916...hkey=Gv1sRgCMfzhsHIkKTsVA#5670206240198059522

 

[AG]

it doesn't look bad at all, has the european style engraving with the blue S on the neck even, probably needs a pad job but that's not too bad either. you'll defintely make money off of it. I couldn't make out the lettering on the mouthpiece except on the table, looked like a 5, medium chamber likely. have you tried to play it? I'd be sorely tempted to keep it, at least for a while. I can't believe someone would let a pawn shop keep a horn like that for $300 or less & not go back & get it. oh well, their loss, your gain. whoever the pawn shop has pricing their instruments is really clueless IMO.

congrats on a great find. what it brings on say ebay will depend on what someones willing to pay, it ought to bring a grand at least even needing a pad job & the Meyer $500 - $600 maybe. I'd have a tech take a look at it & see what all it needed & be honest when you list it. you may wanna sell something else later on ebay if you list it there & feedback is important. good luck with it. looks like a pretty good horn considering.....

 

[Steve Stockham]

I agree, she's not looking bad at all! You're gonna have yourself a Selmer Paris Mk VII in perfect playing condition for under $1000 and that's with a complete pad replacement! (Wow! You hear about something like this but you always think it's just an urban legend...) Seriously, I'd get it properly set up and use it!! You're in one of those extremely rare, never-to-probably-come-again, grab the "brass ring" win/win situations!

 

[thesaxman2014]

I've tried the Meyer yesterday. It's a 6m. It play very very loud and quite bright! I'm not an alto player, so I'm very happy with my buescher true tone and my Brilhart. I want to buy a mark vi tenor so I think that I would sell the horn and the mouthpiece separatly.

 

[milandro]

don't sell them on this site, after having announced what you paid for it my guess is that you would do a lot better elsewhere