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Need ligatures for Ponzol metal and a Guardala metal Tenor.

I would like to hear for those of you who actually play or have played these pieces and what ligatures you have had success with.

I already know about:
Rovners
Selmer 402
Theo Wanne

Thanks.

B:)
 

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i'm diggin the winslow now... over the 402 i like a yanagisawa metal lig they are longer and really get a long clamp on the reed
 

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Winslow is too expensive. I think the 402 is what I will try first. B
 

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I use a Selmer 404 on my Ponzol M1. The 402 is the alto version, it is to small for a good fit. I prefer it very much over any Rovner I've used. The only other lig I've used for a metal tenor piece has been the BG Metal Jazz. The response was nice, but no better than a 404, and it slid around too much. Besides, it's a one-screw design, not what you're looking for...
 

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Hey Brian,

I don't have either piece that you mentioned (so why am I chiming in....), but I do have two very slim pieces. One is a modern Brilhart (about the same as a Runyon Smooth Bore) and the other is a Sakshama Custom Z. The Rico H lig for soprano fits both very well, FWIW.
 

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I use a Selmer 404 on my Ponzol M1. The 402 is the alto version, it is to small for a good fit. I prefer it very much over any Rovner I've used. The only other lig I've used for a metal tenor piece has been the BG Metal Jazz. The response was nice, but no better than a 404, and it slid around too much. Besides, it's a one-screw design, not what you're looking for...
That is good to know. Then I will need a 402 for my Guardala Studio and a 404 for the Ponzol.
 

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Hi, on my guardala tenor the winslow is great sometimes if the mp. is tight on the neck cork it will move. The harrison original holds reed evenly a little better than the rico H models. Lebayle silver winslow style has one screw on top and really clamps down the reed. The selmer 404 is great also. Good luck.

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Thanks for all of the great advice and ideas.

Finally so very happy with the mouthpieces I have and just need a couple of ligatures to make if a snug fit all around (pun intended).

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Thanks for all of the great advice and ideas.

Finally so very happy with the mouthpieces I have and just need a couple of ligatures to make if a snug fit all around (pun intended).

B:)
I'm sure you'll find the 402 just the job on the DG. I have others including the saxxas but the 402 is a no fuss, user friendly, nothing added nothing taken away consistent solution.
 

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I'm sure you'll find the 402 just the job on the DG. I have others including the saxxas but the 402 is a no fuss, user friendly, nothing added nothing taken away consistent solution.
Thanks. I am looking forward to trying it with the Guardala but I am also hoping a 402 or 404 will fit my Ponzol M1 and M6 pieces which I use more. The no fuss is what I am going for. B
 

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Thanks Michael. 402 seems to be a favorite amongst the members here although I know a member that uses Harrisons and Harrison copies. B
 

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The 404 was a perfect fit for my Ponzol M2. I sent it back as I have a Brancher that fits the Ponzols great, and I was buying it initially to fit my Guardalas and goofed as Guardalas need the alto 402. I should have kept it though, as it is a sturdy 2 screw lig that looks like it would last forever. I'll probably buy one again next time I need reeds or something.
 

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Assuming the M2 is the same circumference as the older Ponzol piece the 404 may well be on my list of things to order this week. Thanks. B
 

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Yeah, I wish I took the time to realize the 402 AND the 404 are worth having haha instead of reacting to quickly to return the 404 for a 402.
 

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Got the 402 a few minutes ago and strapped it down over a useless reed and the Guardala studio for a few days of stretching. The fit looks almost like it was meant to be and it is very tight. Ordered the 404 for my Ponzols b/c the 402 does not fit the Ponzol.

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Got the 402 a few minutes ago and strapped it down over a useless reed and the Guardala studio for a few days of stretching.
Don't keep tightening the screws to expect it to stretch - that can kill the screw threads and the joints. Tighten the lig and work it with a popsickle stick or dead reed to make it better conform to the mouthpiece and reed.

It doesn't take days - more like minutes.

Enjoy!
 

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Been on there for about an hour and it works great. No more reed moving around during tuning adjustments/dry cork gigs.

...and I spent $80 and was not enlightened.:bluewink:
 

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How are you?
Yes the 404 will fit your Ponzol,does on my Ponzol IIVI 110 tenor as a glove.
Thouw I might have a Lebayle lig for sale that does fit the Handmade Studio Guardala,If you are interested.
I am waiting for a Winslow,and want to be sure that indeed it does fit my Studio Guardala first.
Best regard
Saxobari
 
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