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question for you all guys...
what is the most reliable horn on the current market regarding pitch.
I'm playing on a good horn, GB tenor, taiwanese made, maillechort.
I truly enjoy the horn as far as the fat sound and the ergonomics.
But geee.... the pitch...
it drives me nuts.
I've played selmer before, mark VI, super action serie II, which might not be perfect for the pitch, but it was seriously not that bad.
your thoughts?????
I'm about to purchase an new horn soon.
 

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How long have you been playing?
What mouthpiece/reeds are you using?
Do you have a teacher, and what do they say about the issue with your instruments' 'pitch'?

You may not need a new horn, but rather a few lessons. :)
The Selmer horns you have listed usually have very few to no issues with pitch.
Most intonation issues are caused by poor embouchure, horn/mouthpiece mismatch, a horn in need of adjustments, the list goes on...
 

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I ve been playing for 20 years.
I am practicing an average of 3 hours daily.
My mouthpiece has been refaced by phil tone lately and blows perfectly.
 

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I have the same problem. I'm playing on those new Kohlert 460 horns. It's very sharp up there. And the a few notes are out of tune too. I'm pretty sure it's the horn because I've played my same setup on a couple of Yamahas and the problem was fixed.
 

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I ve been playing for 20 years.
I am practicing an average of 3 hours daily.
My mouthpiece has been refaced by phil tone lately and blows perfectly.
I apologize.
 

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I talked with bruce kitzel a couple of weeks ago, fine repairman/sax wizard in okc.
He mentioned that some taiwanese horns have really improved quality wise, especially about the sound, but the pitch still remains an issue.
I havent paid for my horn, therefore I should not complain but it drives me nuts while playing.
 

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Gonzo, get yourself a real horn.

Considering you've been playing 3H a day for 20 years, I'm surprised you would even play one of these.

Yanagisawa and yamahas are said to have great pitch.

No saxophone has a perfect scale however and I'd rather adjust to a strong voiced horn with some intonation issues than play a generic sounding tenor that's perfectly in tune.

There recently was a thread about how you have to bring the pitch down as you go up on vintage Selmers and that creates a certain type of sound. I think that makes a lot of sense.
 

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Vintage Martin... ;)
 

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I didnt pay for the horn magical pig, that would be the reason.
It s worth some good money.
But my time of beeing greedy is over now, I got to find myself a fine ax.
Im very fussy about the pitch, to each their own.
Yamaha is catching my attention.
Might try a pick from jeff coffin
 

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I didnt pay for the horn magical pig, that would be the reason.
It s worth some good money.
But my time of beeing greedy is over now, I got to find myself a fine ax.
Im very fussy about the pitch, to each their own.
Yamaha is catching my attention.
Might try a pick from jeff coffin
That's cool man. If intonation is a major concern for you, then yeah yamies and yanies. :)
 

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I m not a fetichist about a special brand of horn.
I believe that having a solid horn helps but the major part of the playing resides in some hard work.
Jeff coffin on yamaha, ernie watts on keilwerth, johnny griffin on super action, joshua redman on mark vi as well as michael brecker.
Man, can they play.
Got to find myself the minimum required for a good horn and put some hours of hot saliva into it.
 

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I ve been playing for 20 years.
I am practicing an average of 3 hours daily.
My mouthpiece has been refaced by phil tone lately and blows perfectly.
Bandmommy's advice is as good as it gets. I've played or owned every modern Selmer and Yamaha and none of these have any issues either with intonation or tone. What does your three hours of practice consist of?
 

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If you don't mind my asking, What is it about the pitch of the GB horn that you find irritating?
I did a quick 'google' and these saxophones are proported to be the 'new industry standard' as far as pitch and intonation are concerned.
I know all about the BS in marketing hype.
Just a little curious is all....
 
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