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selmer 26 nino, 22 curved sop, super alto, King Super 20 and Martin tenors, Stowasser tartogatos
I admire your enterprise. I hope you end up with something usable.
Hey, it worked for me!bluesaxgirl said:Kind of reminds me why everyone at my school decided to play the alto and bari sax: it had the same fingerings of the recorder they had to play in the fourth grade.
I played a Loree with saxophone fingering (or more correctly; Boehm fingering). It is owned by saxophone maven Paul Cohen. The keys are somewhat larger, and "rationally placed". The problem is the thing sounds too much like a soprano saxophone.The only sax fingering Oboe I played was a Loree in about 1968. The holes were all different from a normal Oboe and it really was not all that bad (I was). I agree that it is better to learn a standard Oboe fingering.
I agree - Knowing the sax fingering doesn't place you at any disadvantage in learning the oboe fingering, or any other fingering come to that. In fact it's probably an advantage if anything.I'm afraid I still stick by my original opinion! I would just feel too stupid sitting enxt to an oboist with a sax fingered oboe, I get far more respect from playing the same instrument (loree in my case) as the other players. That is not say that I don't enjoy the fact that it is easier for sax players to pick up the fingerings of instruments like flute and oboe. We should use this to our advantage, but recognise that they are different instruments!!!
As an saxophonist turned full time oboist I actually want to expand on your list so I'm going to add my opinion and do my best to order them. Yes this is only my personal opinion, however I think it is a solid one .100% agreed. Sax fingered oboes are dreadful. Steer clear at all costs. Same with single reed oboe mouthpieces. If you are really interested in an oboe, buy the very best model you can afford and above all take the advice of a good pro oboe player. There are maybe 10-12 good oboe makers, and about 6 absolutely top-class:-
come to mind, in no particular order. There are some excellent lesser known instruments and up-and-coming makes too, so this is not an exhaustive list by any means.
Having studied oboe for a long time, and now playing sax, I have to say that the fingering system of oboe is quite superior to that of the sax (IMO), with many more alternates to eliminate clumsy cross-fingerings and slides between keys.I honestly can't see what the problem is - since saxes are so easy to get around and share a lot of characteristics with oboes (far more than they do with clarinets), then why should a sax system oboe be a bad idea if it grants the player the same playability as a soprano sax?
Oboe keywork has developed over time to what it is now, and you can trace the keywork ancestry back to the very early days when it only had two keys.
However, Boehm system flutes and clarinets were a complete redesign on their ancestors (mechanically speaking) and the lineage has been broken as well as the fact that they are far more widespread than the older systems and designs, though we accept these as that's all most of us have known since the day we picked one up and started playing.
If you can already get around on a sax with ease, then why not have an oboe that is just as easy to get around? Tradition doesn't have to dictate for the sake of feasability.