[Humbardi]

Hi All:
I decided to go for a more open mouthpiece than my actual 5* Otto Link Super Tone Master. I live outside USA and I do not have the possibility to try different mouthpieces in a store.I will be buying by mail. So, if I choose a 7*, what could be the difference in tone quality between a Super Tone Master, a New York and a Hard Resin mouthpiece having the same opening 7* ?
I appreciate your advise, if one of you have had the opportunity to use this mouthpieces o a pair of them...
Many thanks and good sound.
Humbardi

 

[Humbardi]

My search is for my Tenor Sax...! Sorry , i did not post this info.

 

[Sigmund451]

I understand the fist part of the question. The STM and the NY STM is that the NY will be a tad darker but also a little more husky. The differences are not huge...they are close and my tendencies lately lean towards the STM but that is personal.

In terms of resin or hard rubber what specific piece are you taking about? A hard rubber link...New Vintage Link...something else completely?

Buying a link from the mail is like being in the lottery. You can get into a refaced/corrected Link for not a terrible price or get into a hand made HR piece as well.

Sorry for that small self endorsement. I dont envy the position you are in.

 

[MojoBari]

It is more like Russian roulette with 5 bullets in a 6-shooter.

 

[hgiles]

I just got rid of a Millennium and now have a HR Tone Edge. The Millennium is brighter for sure. The TE seems to have more buzziness however, but not as much as my Saxscape Extra Dark.

 

[Sigmund451]

It is more like Russian roulette with 5 bullets in a 6-shooter.

Good one Mojo!

 

[Humbardi]

Hi All:
I found , here in my country, an used Otto link, Tone Edge, #7, that looks like an early Babbitt..I am going to buy it.. I will post some pictures to find some help to identify it.

 

[Humbardi]

Here are pictures of the Tone Edge #7, that looks like an Early Babbit. Is it ?

 

[Humbardi]

Is this Tone Edge #7 an Early Babbit mouthpiece ?

 

[MojoBari]

Based on the beak profile and baffle shape, probably not. But you can not see the main desireble feature which is the table to floor distance. This needs to be measured.

 

[ricanna]

Based on the beak profile and baffle shape, probably not. But you can not see the main desireble feature which is the table to floor distance. This needs to be measured.

Excuse me, may I ask what it is? Is it the the length of the cross-section area of the throat?
And how is the EB desirable in this aspect? Thanks.

 

[JackLi]

Excuse me, may I ask what it is? Is it the the length of the cross-section area of the throat?
And how is the EB desirable in this aspect? Thanks.

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't higher Floor to table ratio equals more projection?

 

[ricanna]

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't higher Floor to table ratio equals more projection?

Seems you're right as I found from Theo Wanne's site:

Floor
The inner portion of the mouthpiece behind the baffle and before the chamber. The higher this section is the more projection the mouthpiece has. The lower it is, the darker the mouthpiece will be.

Okay I know what "floor" on a mouthpiece is.....question left is how are the EBs' floor made that makes them favourable.

 

[whaler]

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't higher Floor to table ratio equals more projection?

This is why you see the threads about people sticking chewing gum, bondo, silly putty, etc. in their Links.

 

[MojoBari]

Excuse me, may I ask what it is? Is it the the length of the cross-section area of the throat?
And how is the EB desirable in this aspect? Thanks.

Here is a description I got from James Romain. My measurements agree with this: "...I use a caliper [stem probe] to [measure the] drop from the table at the bottom of the window straight down to the [floor]. In the earlier and great-playing examples of mine, that drop measures .58-.60", while some still very good ones measure .60-.62" The tubby doorstops known as the modern Tone Edge drop to about .65", a 10% drop in the height of the floor that is significant, and undoubtedly coincides with the loss of projection and response, particularly in the upper register."

 

[ricanna]

Thanks Mojo!
But are the figures actually 10x (range of .58"-.65") if we're talking about the height of the cross-section at the bottom of window?

And sorry for Humbardi that I kinda hijacked this thread.

 

[MojoBari]

Thanks Mojo!
But are the figures actually 10x (range of .58"-.65") if we're talking about the height of the cross-section at the bottom of window?

Yes! I'll correct it above.

 

[Humbardi]

Dear Sigmund :I am talking about an Otto Link Tone Edge 7 ( from 1980 or less...)..Thanks for your response
Humbardi

 

[Humbardi]

Ricanna: don't worry..this thread is helping me understand more about mouthpieces and in particular my Tone Edge..let's continue...thanks
Humbardi

 

[Humbardi]

Here is a description I got from James Romain. My measurements agree with this: "...I use a caliper [stem probe] to [measure the] drop from the table at the bottom of the window straight down to the [floor]. In the earlier and great-playing examples of mine, that drop measures .58-.60", while some still very good ones measure .60-.62" The tubby doorstops known as the modern Tone Edge drop to about .65", a 10% drop in the height of the floor that is significant, and undoubtedly coincides with the loss of projection and response, particularly in the upper register."

Mojo : If I want to measure my mouthpiece "drop from the table at the bottom of the window straight down to the [floor" this is at 90degrees with respect to the table surface ?..Thanks..