Sal Nistico on Conn 10M
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Re: Sal Nestico on Conn 10M
(Nistico with an I dangit...) And yeah, Holy Carp, he's ... a BEAST! Fer what it's worth, I find a 10M pretty ding-dang easy to get around once you get acclimated. And Sal here seems to have become quite friggin' acclimated.
(Nistico with an I dangit...) And yeah, Holy Carp, he's ... a BEAST! Fer what it's worth, I find a 10M pretty ding-dang easy to get around once you get acclimated. And Sal here seems to have become quite friggin' acclimated.
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And a BUNCH of Boston guys playing in that band.. Kenny Wenzel and Phil Wilson on bones, Danny Nolan and Paul Fontaine in the tpt. section. Wasn't Nat Pierce also from New England as well?
Yeah, if anyone bitches about not being able to get around on a 10M, well.....just watch or listen to some of the things Sal did with Woody's band back in the early to mid 60's!
Thanks for posting!
John
Yeah, if anyone bitches about not being able to get around on a 10M, well.....just watch or listen to some of the things Sal did with Woody's band back in the early to mid 60's!
Thanks for posting!
John
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By that time it was unusual enough not to have a band made up mostly of New Yorkers. :cat:
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One of the greatest!!!
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10M's are the fastest tenors on the planet--it's to do with the key cup to hinge leverage. If you look closely you will notice how the key arms actually follow the contour radius of the body tube. Most other horns feel like typewriters in comparison. Combined with long springs and the (in)famous locking pivot screws the keywork can be set up like 'greased lightening' 6M's work on the same principle. I've often wondered if the extra keywork and adjustments to be found on Conquerer's (26m ,30m) slowed the action down somewhat compared with their 'lesser brethren' so few people bought them--to the point they were discontinued.
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There's nothing quite like a great 10M. I know because I own one!!! 
So fast!
So fast!
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Sal ...was one of the most articulate
tenor players that ever played.
There is a Cd on Red records
from Italy..where he plays " Inner Urge"
so amazing...so burning....it might
be the best version of the tune ever.
Sal lived in Europe the last years of his
life due to the lame jive non-existant
work conditions in this country.
(Yea...everyone likes jazz but the support
is NEVER there)
Sal never played the Vanguard like some
guys half his age ..who could of never
even played a simple blues with him. Few cats had his creative energy or knowledge.
Sal....when he lived in NYC lived in Reno Park.
Mostly he traveled to L.A..Europe,and those spots for gigs.
When he DID move to Europe for good finally he worked
more than ever till his untimely death from a brain tumor.
Sal was a great friend and one of the most unique
jazz teachers I ever had. I studied with him
on and off...from 1970 till the last time
I ever saw him in 1982. ...he NEVER wrote anything
down either.He said-if you want to learn
it YOU WILL remember it. He wouldn't
let ya tape lessons either. He was the
most disciplined cat I ever ran into.
When I first met him he was playing a Menza mouthpiece on his Conn 10M
with # 4 Oliveri reeds. That was 1970...
in Boston when he lived in our apt building
for a few months. Years later around the time..he lived in NY.
He had switched to a balanced action
Selmer and metal link. Then I 'm sure LaVoz
were something he was using. Like
Med Hards. Sal was a fan of Frank Wells.
I know if he was using Links during his Woody period Wells worked on them.
Probally his Bergs to. Pepper Adams told me once , that Sal
read the Thad and Mel band book AT SIGHT.....on his first gig. THAT musta been something!!! I know Sal was one of the hardest workers I ever met.
There is a record- Sals best IMHO.Called " Neo Nistico" on Beehive records.
My transcription of - 'Fe Fi Fo Fum' by Shorter is in my " Great Tenor solos
book". To me THAT solo shows Sals growth.
Sal told a great story about Trane.
They were buds- but the first time
Sal met Trane was on a subway.
Trane came over to Sal , and told him he
loved how great he played. Sal told me
ya coulda always know if Trane was home cuz you'd hear his sound all over the
block when he sheded.
Sal in 60's was going to Ornettes Prince St studio to play.
He WAS playing Bari then too . My buddy the late Saul Fromkin used to talk about this a lot. That I'd love to hear- that stuff. I know Ornette musta loved him to.
Ornette with SAL on Bari. Forrrrrrrgggeeeeeeeeettt about it :mrgreen:
I 'm not sure he ever recorded on bari tho.
I have a huge poster of Sal in front of my music stand in my studio.< That pic is below- Same pic Roberto has. It was from a tribute for Sal- Lou Ornstein did them. >
That guy changed my life !!
tenor players that ever played.
There is a Cd on Red records
from Italy..where he plays " Inner Urge"
so amazing...so burning....it might
be the best version of the tune ever.
Sal lived in Europe the last years of his
life due to the lame jive non-existant
work conditions in this country.
(Yea...everyone likes jazz but the support
is NEVER there)
Sal never played the Vanguard like some
guys half his age ..who could of never
even played a simple blues with him. Few cats had his creative energy or knowledge.
Sal....when he lived in NYC lived in Reno Park.
Mostly he traveled to L.A..Europe,and those spots for gigs.
When he DID move to Europe for good finally he worked
more than ever till his untimely death from a brain tumor.
Sal was a great friend and one of the most unique
jazz teachers I ever had. I studied with him
on and off...from 1970 till the last time
I ever saw him in 1982. ...he NEVER wrote anything
down either.He said-if you want to learn
it YOU WILL remember it. He wouldn't
let ya tape lessons either. He was the
most disciplined cat I ever ran into.
When I first met him he was playing a Menza mouthpiece on his Conn 10M
with # 4 Oliveri reeds. That was 1970...
in Boston when he lived in our apt building
for a few months. Years later around the time..he lived in NY.
He had switched to a balanced action
Selmer and metal link. Then I 'm sure LaVoz
were something he was using. Like
Med Hards. Sal was a fan of Frank Wells.
I know if he was using Links during his Woody period Wells worked on them.
Probally his Bergs to. Pepper Adams told me once , that Sal
read the Thad and Mel band book AT SIGHT.....on his first gig. THAT musta been something!!! I know Sal was one of the hardest workers I ever met.
There is a record- Sals best IMHO.Called " Neo Nistico" on Beehive records.
My transcription of - 'Fe Fi Fo Fum' by Shorter is in my " Great Tenor solos
book". To me THAT solo shows Sals growth.
Sal told a great story about Trane.
They were buds- but the first time
Sal met Trane was on a subway.
Trane came over to Sal , and told him he
loved how great he played. Sal told me
ya coulda always know if Trane was home cuz you'd hear his sound all over the
block when he sheded.
Sal in 60's was going to Ornettes Prince St studio to play.
He WAS playing Bari then too . My buddy the late Saul Fromkin used to talk about this a lot. That I'd love to hear- that stuff. I know Ornette musta loved him to.
Ornette with SAL on Bari. Forrrrrrrgggeeeeeeeeettt about it :mrgreen:
I 'm not sure he ever recorded on bari tho.
I have a huge poster of Sal in front of my music stand in my studio.< That pic is below- Same pic Roberto has. It was from a tribute for Sal- Lou Ornstein did them. >
That guy changed my life !!
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Is it this one?
http://www.musicme.com/Sal-Nistico/albums/Empty-Room-3661585005711.html?play=03
You have to wait 30 seconds for the track to play.
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YES!
The pianist Rita Marcotulli is slamming on" Rain or Shine".
SORRY, I should of mentioned the CD...I'm not quite up yet. Only 2ed coffee etc. That IS the CD
Interesting that he later chose the BA instead of a MKVI. Everybody was playing Selmers I guess. The Conn 10m and Selmer BA are my two favorite horns sound wise.
I was joking about the 10m keys in the original post. Once you get used to them they are fine. I think I like them better now actually.
Sal sure was a great player on anything.
I was joking about the 10m keys in the original post. Once you get used to them they are fine. I think I like them better now actually.
Sal sure was a great player on anything.
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I've owned and played all four models and my take is the Connquerors aren't any slower in action.
The real reason they got rid of the Connquerors? WW2. Now why they weren't resumed postwar is another story. Probably because Conn started focusing on the school band business.
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