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Any opinions on it? Does anybody know if it has a ligature?
Runyon Quntum Metal, Info, Come with a ligature?
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The Quantum metals are supposed to be available with a black plastic tooth deck and without one (just a MP patch on them). But I have not seen a sop Q with a tooth deck. Without one, the feel in the mouth is tiny. Like a duckbill to the extreme. Like a bassoon reed. Some players can not get used to the embouchure for it.
All Runyons come with ligatures. Most are chinsey plastic ones with thumb screws that are threaded in crooked. But I just worked on a metal Q tenor with a nice metal ligature. There is hope.
Sound wise, they are contemporary without being bright to the max. The baffle is high and long, but the chamber is still a medium size. I think they work great on bari and tenor, but are too bright for most playing on alto and sop. A Runyon Custom would be my choice for a bright sop sax sound. But I prefer a HR squeeze chamber design (Ponzol, Bari, Barone, Super Session, Vandoren).
Being a Caravan Player, why are you interested?
All Runyons come with ligatures. Most are chinsey plastic ones with thumb screws that are threaded in crooked. But I just worked on a metal Q tenor with a nice metal ligature. There is hope.
Sound wise, they are contemporary without being bright to the max. The baffle is high and long, but the chamber is still a medium size. I think they work great on bari and tenor, but are too bright for most playing on alto and sop. A Runyon Custom would be my choice for a bright sop sax sound. But I prefer a HR squeeze chamber design (Ponzol, Bari, Barone, Super Session, Vandoren).
Being a Caravan Player, why are you interested?
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Becuase, I love music, and why just be dedicated to one from of music, when there is just so much out there to learn? I am more of a jazz musician than a classical artist, but when it comes out to playing baritone, Classical is a little bit more appreciated than jazz, Unless I could play chord progessions well on it. I would kill to do that on Bari, if I could do it as well as Gary Smullyan. I can do it all right on tenor. There is just something about baritone that makes it harder, although I can play "Improviation et Caprice " on it, I can only play swing on Bari, (at the moment). I played a Brillhart LevelAire without the tooth plate, and Iloved it, but I needed a little more space, and then I found this mouthpiece. You can manipulate chrome mouthpieces to do a lot. I also love Duck Bill Tips, they help a lot with my Embouchure. Thankyou for the post.MojoBari said:
Does anyone else know about them?
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I play a Quantum metal bari 8 for jazz using a fibracell 2.5 or 3 - and it works very well. More volume than I can get with my Link STM 7 (which is sweet enought to use for symphonic band on bari) - and still has a great huge sound. I have a spoiler for it too - but I don't use it. It does make it perhaps 20% louder (perceived) but it also thins the sound out too much. Reminds me of my old Levelaire that I sold (never like the sound from that one - way too shrill for me).
The quantum came with a lig that works fine (though I bought it used). Better make sure you get a lig with whatever you buy - haven't seen a "stock" lig from anyone else that would fit these mpc's yet.
The quantum came with a lig that works fine (though I bought it used). Better make sure you get a lig with whatever you buy - haven't seen a "stock" lig from anyone else that would fit these mpc's yet.
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Is it possible to use a certain model of the Louie Francois Ligature? Or at least on metal mouthpieces?
I didn't care for the response nor the tuning of the Runyon custom on soprano. But I do like the Link STM. It has provides more projection than my Super Session or Yani HR but still has a good body to the sound rather than thin and whiny like a Dukoff. THe soprano STM seems a different animal than the tenor and alto models. The several ones I've tried blew well out of the box.
All Runyons I've tried came with the chessy plastic ligs.
All Runyons I've tried came with the chessy plastic ligs.
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the quantum on sop is agreat playing and sounding mpc-jsut as mojo says the duck bill is hard to get used too.
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The frustration experienced by players with fitting a metal Quantum tenor mouthpieces with a ligature is well documented on this site. I tried at least five different options when I had mine; none of which didn't eventually slip. You'll have to either scratch up the piece and/or ligature or use tape for a better grip; if you want to keep it.ChuBerry47 said:
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I'm sure several people have had problems with ligature slip. I'm not one of them. Rovner Lights and Mark IIIs hold fine. The metal lig on a recent one was fine too. Perhaps I get a better grip after I flatten the tables. Most of my experiance is after I work on them.
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