[andrewwmyers]

I'm about to get me a runyon custom #6 and I was wondering if the spoilers can cause squeaks or any other unwanted sounds. If so I'm probably not going to get it. And also I use vandoren java 3 reeds and I wanted to know what reed might be best to use.

 

[craigmultireedguy]

I bought a custom spoiler 7 for my alto a while back... It actually played great with or without the spoiler in. A tad stuffy for my tastes, but then again it's designed to be a classical piece.

 

[craigmultireedguy]

But to answer your question: No, the spoiler doesn't cause squeaks. It did make a positive difference with altissimo though

 

[Dave Dolson]

Andrew: Welcome to SOTW. What size horn are you asking about? I have one of those for soprano. I don't use it but when I play around with it, I hear a slight difference with spoiler in and out. Not better or worse, just different. And no, the spoiler doesn't affect the way the pice responds. DAVE

 

[CONN-hunter]

At first I thought the spoiler would make the sound too edgy but after a while playing without it I found the spoiler a very useful acessory.
It doens't have any incovenient effect to the sound, in opposite.
I used a Custom 6 for soprano.
The only bad side of the custom sop piece is its narrow profile.

Are you going to buy one for Soprano as well?
I was told clarinette reds work well, didn't try yet. I use Fibracells.

 

[MartinMusicMan]

I have a Runyon custom with a spoiler for tenor. The spoiler does not cause squeaks or other unwanted sounds. It adds edge and maybe some volume, and turns the mouthpiece into a total screamer. No complexity in the tone, just straight out pea shooter. The last few times I played it, I didn't use the spoiler. It makes it a little less edgy and loud, and easier to play. I don't play it much any more -- it's in the case as a backup -- because I love my Metalites. You might try one of those instead of a Runyon. They're quite inexpensive.

 

[andrewwmyers]

Andrew: Welcome to SOTW. What size horn are you asking about? I have one of those for soprano. I don't use it but when I play around with it, I hear a slight difference with spoiler in and out. Not better or worse, just different. And no, the spoiler doesn't affect the way the pice responds. DAVE

I play alto btw and thanx. And is saxplus a promising site? Would anyone know. Or should I just buy it of runyon products.

 

[andrewwmyers]

I have a Runyon custom with a spoiler for tenor. The spoiler does not cause squeaks or other unwanted sounds. It adds edge and maybe some volume, and turns the mouthpiece into a total screamer. No complexity in the tone, just straight out pea shooter. The last few times I played it, I didn't use the spoiler. It makes it a little less edgy and loud, and easier to play. I don't play it much any more -- it's in the case as a backup -- because I love my Metalites. You might try one of those instead of a Runyon. They're quite inexpensive.

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Metal mouthpiece I've heard a lot of things about that's why I was originally going to get a Meyer metal jazz mouthpiece but I thought it might be to drastic of a change. These metalites, are they really good for how cheap they are? I might just swing both of the mouthpieces since they both are inexpensive and I've heard great things about them.

 

[Grumps]

I'm about to get me a runyon custom #6 and I was wondering if the spoilers can cause squeaks or any other unwanted sounds.

Plenty of folks find these plastic mouthpieces alone can cause unwanted sounds. If price is your main concern, I'd look into what Vandoren offers in hard rubber for alto. You'll get a quality piece for not much more than a Runyon that will have your alto sound like... an alto.

 

[MojoBari]

The Spolier does not add much to the cost and is a removable option. The Sop Sax Spoiler is very small (the black plastic part that makes the baffle higher). I think this is so it does not throw the intonation off.

The alto, tenor and bari Spoilers make the sound 2-3 notches brighter and can hurt response a bit. They feel like the choke off the response some. The fix is to either
1. sand the sides of the Spoiler a little so it fits in the mouthpiece farther away from the tip and reed. Thereby lowering the baffle augmentation. Or,
2. file/sand the black part of the Spoiler thinner. I like to remove about 1/3rd of the thickness using a 1" wide belt sander I have.

I still prefer the sound without the Spoiler, but the above modifications can make the Spoiler more usable IMO. It would ad just 1 notch of brightness.

 

[Benny]

Plenty of folks find these plastic mouthpieces alone can cause unwanted sounds. If price is your main concern, I'd look into what Vandoren offers in hard rubber for alto. You'll get a quality piece for not much more than a Runyon that will have your alto sound like... an alto.

having just sold a box full on runyons I couldn't agree more.
A V16 or java mouthpiece is a much better option.

 

[CONN-hunter]

Claude Lakey is also a nice alternative, specially the older ones.

I wonder what an Alto is he playing.

 

[kcp]

I'm about to get me a runyon custom #6 and I was wondering if the spoilers can cause squeaks or any other unwanted sounds. If so I'm probably not going to get it. And also I use vandoren java 3 reeds and I wanted to know what reed might be best to use.

I never had any problem to control a custom with or without its spoiler (I prefer it with) - Besides the difference in sound and edge that it procures, blowing with or without feels just the same. If you are experiencing such control issues, maybe the mpc is defective or something defective with the player :bluewink:

 

[andrewwmyers]

Plenty of folks find these plastic mouthpieces alone can cause unwanted sounds. If price is your main concern, I'd look into what Vandoren offers in hard rubber for alto. You'll get a quality piece for not much more than a Runyon that will have your alto sound like... an alto.

Price is not my main concern ill do watever it takes to sound right I just heard things about the to mouthpieces that are really cheap. I am considering the metalite now but vandoren may not be a bad option. I'll look into it thanx.

 

[CONN-hunter]

What an Alto have you been playing Andrew?
Metalite? you can give it a try but go direct to the V16 Vandoren or the Lakey.
V16 works with everything. (round small chamber or medium chamber)

 

[Bill Mecca]

Just to clarify, Metalites are NOT metal, but high baffle, bright pieces designed by Arnold Brilhart. I have a Custom 9 on tenor for a while, easy to play, a bit brighter with the spoiler, no difference in control etc. they work for some, not for others, YMMV.

 

[SAXISMYAXE]

I'm a big fan of my Runyons, albeit all sans the spoiler.

 

[andrewwmyers]

What an Alto have you been playing Andrew?
Metalite? you can give it a try but go direct to the V16 Vandoren or the Lakey.
V16 works with everything. (round small chamber or medium chamber)

I play on a conn with the prefix n on it,and I don't know much about it. It's not the best in quality but it does the Job as long as I keep up with pads or any other problems. I've considered vandoren v16 in the past but I already have a mouthpiece that focuses on a dark tone (selmer c* with a fabric rovner lig) I kinda want one that focuses on a brighter tone versatility isn't quite what I'm looking for.

 

[Grumps]

I've considered vandoren v16 in the past but I already have a mouthpiece that focuses on a dark tone (selmer c* with a fabric rovner lig) I kinda want one that focuses on a brighter tone versatility isn't quite what I'm looking for.

A Vandoren V16 is nothing like a Selmer 80 C*. The Vandoren is a take on the classic Meyer, which although isn't overly bright, isn't really dark either. Just sweet, like an alto should be.

 

[andrewwmyers]

A Vandoren V16 is nothing like a Selmer 80 C*. The Vandoren is a take on the classic Meyer, which although isn't overly bright, isn't really dark either. Just sweet, like an alto should be.

Ok thanx I will keep that in mind. I wish there were more videos on these mpcs because I would like to here the sound of these even though the person playing it could sound completely different compared to me. I have 3 potential mp cs that I might get. I surprisingly have narrowed down my choices. vandoren v16, Meyer metal jazz, and (one I haven't mentioned yet) the jody jazz hr* mpc. I've looked further into the runyon and I've decided against it. Also with the help of my music director Ive eliminated several others. I think ill just have to look into them and ill be good thanx for the help guys. I haven't seen any post about the Meyer though would anyone have any helpful opinions they wuld like to share.