Sax on the Web Forum banner

RPC .120 Baffle Size/Length?

1047 Views 13 Replies 5 Participants Last post by  KeithL
Hi everyone, I just posted this in the marketplace as a "for trade" ad also, but thought I might get some good discussion/advice here.

I just got an RPC .120 (red letters) for tenor and I like it a lot but would like to trade down a size to a .115. Also, I know his pieces can vary a lot in baffle size/shape, and this one seems to have a very long and defined rollover baffle. Definitely not the sharp drop-off I've seen in pictures of some of his "B" pieces, but seems like significantly more than I've seen in pics of other "rollover" or "no-baffle" RPC's. I've tried to capture this in photos, which of course is difficult. It doesn't play as bright as I would expect it to from looking at the baffle, it has a very focused sound maybe right in the middle of the bright/dark spectrum, but I'm hoping if I can find one with slightly less baffle, it will be a little darker and end up right where I want it, in addition to going down to .115 to make it a little easier to play with the same reed strength I'm used to.

Here are some photos of the piece so you can (maybe) see what I'm talking about:

Does anyone know if this is "standard" for his non-baffle/rollover pieces, or is it indeed longer than normal? Does anybody have a .115 with very little baffle they'd like to trade?

I've been rotating through a bunch of pieces recently, from STM NY to Tenney Jazzmaster to Ben Allen "Jazzmaster" to Lamberson J8, which is my favorite I've ever played so far, and the RPC seems like a logical next step in the quest to hone in on those very specific overtones I love. The RPC is both brighter and darker than the J8 in different ways, the J8 is kind of "wider" or more "spread" sounding with a significant amount of "warmth" or "buzz" but without any harsh high overtones so it doesn't get too shrill at high volume or in the upper register. The RPC is a little more focused with less "stray" overtones but still with depth and fatness to the sound, still not very bright at all but the tiniest bit harsher, which I'm thinking a lower baffle would reduce and I'd have a perfect balance.
See less See more
1 - 2 of 14 Posts
Fred's 'pieces were a real lesson to me - they taught me to just play, rather than analyze them. Some things about them just don't make sense, but I really loved the way they play. I played a couple of Lamberson 'pieces that were "perfected" by other mouthpiece techs, and found that they just didn't work any more. The balance of nuances in Fred's work is what makes them play so well.

You've got some fine mouthpieces. Enjoy!


Yeah, for sure. The reason for wanting to go down a size is that it's more resistant / takes more lip pressure than what I'm used to on my other pieces. Interestingly, my J8 (listed as .120) feels basically the same to play as my other .115 pieces, possibly due to a longer / less resistant facing. Fred told me his facing is 52 which is definitely longer than my Link (I think 48 if I remember correctly), I've heard RPC facings are "long" too, but not sure if that would be consistent across his pieces. If I had to guess though, I'd say this piece is shorter than the Lamberson which I think would explain it being noticably more difficult/fatiguing to play with an equivalent reed.
Does anyone have an opinion on whether the baffle on mine looks like it falls in the "normal" range of the rollover pieces? Like I guess what I'm wondering is if it's more than most. Also, are there just 2 distinct models, "baffle" and "rolllover," or is there also like a "plain" or no-baffle model?
That looks like a rollover to me. As far as I recall, there were only two models advertised. As others have underscored, the amount of baffle was tuned to the individual buyer's request (and Ron's interpretation).
1 - 2 of 14 Posts
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.