[saxmsy]

I used the Rovner dark lig for soprano for years and was quite happy about it. Recently the screw on the lig is somewhat out of shape so I order their "next generation" model Rovner Versa-X. I used the (old) Rovner Versa for both Alto and Tenor and also very happy about them so I assumed the new model on soprano should be equivalent good. However to my surprise the Versa-X turns out to be a big disappointment for the following two reasons.


1. It is very tight to fit onto the mouthpiece with reed. I have to unscrew it to almost the further end so that I am able to put it onto the proper position of mouthpiece.

2. The metal plate (V shape) keep slipping sideward off the reed during the adjustment. It takes a lot of patience to align the metal plate to the proper position. If you want to experiment different reeds in a short time, you will lose patience.

I tried it on my three different HR mouthpieces and the result is same. I just don't quite understand that does the Rovner ever test their product during/after the design the new model?

 

[Grumps]

I just don't quite understand that does the Rovner ever test their product during/after the design the new model?

It's been around a while now; first called the Eddie Daniels model. The most overly complicated, and flawed ligature design ever conceived in my view. Nothing against other Rovner products, as I favor a dark model for my soprano.

 

[saxmsy]

It's been around a while now; first called the Eddie Daniels model. The most overly complicated, and flawed ligature design ever conceived in my view. Nothing against other Rovner products, as I favor a dark model for my soprano.

I am actually ok with the Eddie Daniels model on my Alto and Tenor, as at least the metal plate does not slip away from the reed. In comparison, the metal plate on their X model is kind of in the shape of "\____/" which easily slip away from the reed during adjustment. I don't know how this V shape metal plate improve the tone, but at first it is difficult to put it on.

 

[Sonny S]

I use the classic Rovner Versa on my tenor TW Durga. It's finicky for how you line it up but it holds the reed beautifully, never slips and seems to be very durable. I tried the new Versa-X and didn't like it all. Incredible finicky to line up and sounded pretty awful. I'd say if the standard Rovner dark doesn't quite work for you, the classic Versa just might. Worth a try.

 

[1saxman]

OP; sounds like you bought a lig too small for your application. Maybe Rovner will help you out with this. Or you could cut to the chase and swap the hardware out of the new one into the old one.

 

[ving]

It's been around a while now; first called the Eddie Daniels model. The most overly complicated, and flawed ligature design ever conceived in my view. Nothing against other Rovner products, as I favor a dark model for my soprano.

Ha, I see your hatred of the Eddie Daniels/versa continues, Grumps! Different strokes for different folks I guess. I've been using that model on clarinet , bari and alto and added one for tenor recently too. I don't find them complicated, in fact much the opposite; I think one of their strengths is ease of use. As to not fitting a given mpc, I think you have to go with which model fits best depending on the size of your mpc, and that may not be as listed by rovner. For instance, I'm using a cl model on my ponzol hr bari mpc and it fits/works great. Same on a smaller profile tenor mpc. I have, I'm using a standard hr alto mpc on that. (Although in that case, rovner does specify standard hr alto/slim tenor).

 

[Grumps]

Ha, I see your hatred of the Eddie Daniels/versa continues, Grumps!

Yeah, I might have quoted myself in the past in regard to these monstrosities... which was always sort of tongue firmly in cheek, and perhaps a bit more comical. But I do realize some folks dig them, and that's fine. They can work, and if you like fidgeting with your equipment, bonus. But they can also scratch the hell out of your mouthpiece table if you're not careful, which was always my main concern.

 

[ving]

Yes, I’ve accidentally put a wrong size rovner on a mpc before and gouged the back accidentally.

 

[rzzzzz]

my favorite soprano lig, by far, is the Rovner Light that Peter Ponzol included with his ML tenor piece. (meanwhile, the little Rovner he included with his metal M1 sop is oddly cumbersome.)

 

[Bottle Opener]

Rovner Light is the way to go. But please don't tell anyone.