Rovner Dark

Ticho said:

I want the sound to be dark. I' am using now a BG Tradition, which is really bright. I was thinking in a rovner dark but my teacher also recommend me the EDII. Is it brighter than the dark model??? Thank you very much.

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Maybe it would be a good idea to try different mouthpieces, a different ligature won't really affect the sound. (If it does then it most likeey means your current ligature or mouthpiece is damaged or warped)

An S80 shouldn't really be over bright - you should be able to get a variety of tone colour, so I would suggest working on embouchure. I think the best ligature for a Selmer mouthpiece is a Selmer ligature, they are very good.

Ticho said:

Hi. I need to buy a ligature for my S80 C*. I want the sound to be dark. I' am using now a BG Tradition, which is really bright. I was thinking in a rovner dark but my teacher also recommend me the EDII. Is it brighter than the dark model??? Thank you very much.

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The Rovner Dark won't make you sound darker, it will just muffle the sound. If you want a darker sound you'll need a darker mouthpiece...the lig affects the response of the reed, not the sound. Try a Vandoren Klassik string, or a Consoli.

J.Max said:

The Rovner Dark won't make you sound darker, it will just muffle the sound.

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I couldn't agree more. Although they're super easy to use, I have never been a fan of these ligs. The dark one I have pretty much destroys the sound of my vintage mps.

Does anybody actually make a good cheap metal lig that works well with large HR pieces like Brilharts? I bought a Vandoren Masters lig for my Tonalin and it's too small. Am I going to have to revert to the broccolig?

Rory

ps. If you're not convinced I'll trade you a Rovner Dark for the BG

rleitch said:

I couldn't agree more. Although they're super easy to use, I have never been a fan of these ligs. The dark one I have pretty much destroys the sound of my vintage mps.

Does anybody actually make a good cheap metal lig that works well with large HR pieces like Brilharts? I bought a Vandoren Masters lig for my Tonalin and it's too small. Am I going to have to revert to the broccolig?

Rory

ps. If you're not convinced I'll trade you a Rovner Dark for the BG

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You could try a lig for a smaller hard rubber bari mouthpiece

J.Max said:

The Rovner Dark won't make you sound darker, it will just muffle the sound. If you want a darker sound you'll need a darker mouthpiece...the lig affects the response of the reed, not the sound. Try a Vandoren Klassik string, or a Consoli.

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I understand. What would be the difference with a EDII??? It's really difficult for me to try these ligs that's why I' am asking. Thank you.

Ticho: I have a collection of Rovner ligs including the darks, lights, EDII's and EVO-5 (I THINK that's what they call it). Sometimes they work fine, other times they tend to dampen the buzziness or take out the brilliance.

I suspect that the individual reed one uses at the time has more bearing on what the Rovners do than the Rovner of-whatever-design itself.

Specifcally, the EDII probably does the least to dampen the tone, in my experience. Still, they aren't quite as buzzy as a stock metal lig. Plus, the little lead-slug inserts (don't know if they are really lead, they just look that way) on the EDII constantly fall out of my EDII ligs. I've lost some of them. But you know what, whether the insert is there or not, the lig plays the same for me. DAVE

Heh, I can't even get the inserts out on my friends EDII Dave...

Ticho said:

I understand. What would be the difference with a EDII??? It's really difficult for me to try these ligs that's why I' am asking. Thank you.

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The EDII has these little metal piece in the bottom, but it still contacts the reed too much to make them useful. That's why the Consoli is better; the plastic ribs contact the reed in the part that vibrates the least, so the rest of the reed can vibrate freely.

Dave Dolson said:

Ticho: I have a collection of Rovner ligs including the darks, lights, EDII's and EVO-5 (I THINK that's what they call it). Sometimes they work fine, other times they tend to dampen the buzziness or take out the brilliance. DAVE

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Actually, Dave's got it even more right : Sometimes they work just fine, and then other times they really sound dead.

Rory

Bari lig! great idea!

try a vandoren optimum lig. it will rock your world.....