[snoeman]

I just got my 6m worked up a few days ago. the tech did a phenomenal job giving my horn an overhaul. he redpadded it him saxgourmet roo pas with noyek resonators. he said that it would make my 6m at its full potential and make the sound very dark. I looked up some info talking about how it gives it a bright tone and how it depends on the size of them. Can anyone give me some info on this?

 

[Rackety Sax]

I suggest playing it and seeing for yourself whether it now plays brighter, darker, or any differently at all than before.

 

[martinm5862]

The terms dark and bright are meaningless. Look up some more info and you'll find someone else who thinks they're dark.

 

[BOPITY FUNK]

I would'nt put Noyeks on a 6M , flat metal disc or plastic domed reso's yes. I ruined --tonewise that is--- a JK SX90 tenor putting oversize Noyek type reso's on. It made the horn ultra loud and it would not blend in a section.

 

[Raphyel]

When looking at this thread, I saw the question of roopads being bright or dark, but I honestly do not thing roopad or leather pads make a difference, and if it does it negligible, but the resos, definitely. The Noyeks are big and loud. I used seamless dome resos in all of my Conns and they worked great for me.

 

[Dave Dolson]

I'll agree that dark/bright are meaningless because the terms are SO subjective. One person's bright is another person' dark.

I'm wondering how one determines if a certain resonator makes that much of a difference? You buy a used saxophone and have it re-padded. Then you test it and find that it is louder than it SEEEMED before (or vice-versa). Is it the resos? Is it the pads? Is it something else? How many have then broken it all down and re-done it AGAIN with different resos, or different pads, or both to determine how it sounded after that? I'm thinking not too many. By the time that is done, one's memory could be faulty.

I say this because I have vintage saxophones with various resos and pads - installed before I bought the horns. They all provide about the same volume - certainly the ones with Noyeks (those wavy metal resos) are no louder than other saxophones with snap-ins or plastic Selmer-like resos.

Specifically to roo-pads, I had my Yanagisawa S992 repadded a while back and Jimmy Scimonetti used black roo pads with domed metal resos. It plays great but it is no darker nor louder than it was before, and it is on a par with my Yanagisawa S901 with the original pads (slightly domed plastic resos). DAVE

 

[maddenma]

I suspect it doesn't make any difference, just in the feel of the keywork. I have horns in both precision pads and roo pads. Had one of them changed from precision to roos. No difference in sound that I can hear. Feels different though. Much harder material, so it pops more when you hit the keys.

 

[Pete Thomas]

You buy a used saxophone and have it re-padded. Then you test it and find that it is louder than it SEEEMED before (or vice-versa). Is it the resos? Is it the pads? Is it something else?

Yes, it's usually the lack of leaks.

 

[maddenma]

What a concept!

 

[Martin Williams]

Yes, it's usually the lack of leaks.

I love this response. Finally someone figured it out.