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Hello

From an interview gently transcribed by a forumer , when know for sure that Sonny Rollins played a Buescher during the mid sixties , and loved it. But before ?


isn’t that a 156?

http://airjudden.tripod.com/jazz/sonnyrollins.html


and that an ealy aristocrat?

http://www.poegilly.com/Jazz_Grates/images/Sonny_Rollins.jpg


This has seems to underslung octave key (S20? or THC)

What about this :

http://www.nndb.com/people/625/000047484/rollins01.jpg

the bell doesn’t seem like a selmer , no? Buescher again.?

Whereas this could be a Conn ?

http://www.musikstudio-geldern.de/p...rtet-SonnyRollinsWithTheModernJazzQuartet.jpg

..by the way , this record from 51 is terrific . Sonny has a huge and totally controlled sound… and phrases like Bird! And he was only 21 at that time : amazing talent!

Laurent
 

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number three is more probably a SBA rather than a M6 : : the octave key doesn'et seem to have the "S" logo

For the bueschers : one is an aristocrat (small bell) the other a THC?

Rollins played also S'20 on RCA recordings ( "The standard" my favorite album, if i should choose one..)

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It's a 6. That's a very small picture, I had the vinyl for years and you could see clearly in the larger picture that the octave key assembly and the neck are straight mark 6. I've never heard of Sonny ever playing a Balanced, and I've asked some guys that were around then and they don't either.
 

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daigle65 said:
But what about the staggered lower stack posts ?
I don't know what to say about that, I just know the two things I mentioned mean it has to be a six, those are two of the major differences between SBA's and 6's. There are several pictures from that time, and Sonny always has a 6 in his hands. I'm looking at the front cover of Newk's Time (recorded 3 months after The SOS), and the back of A Night at The Village Vanguard (6 months), and he has a 6 in both pictures, and there are pictures from earlier that year of Sonny with Max Roach and he's playing a 6 in those pictures as well. He was famous for having and using a lot of horns, but like I said, I've never heard of him playing a SBA. HERE'S a slightly larger picture.
 

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This album was released in 1957, right? Is it possible he has one of those ambiguous "transitional" horns, either a VI with come characteristics of the SBA or vice versa? There was a thead about this recently. . . .
 

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I'm not so sure anymore.
I was basing my observations on the CD cover (The Sound of Sonny) that I have. After a second look I think that maybe the posts aren't staggered, it looks like there just one that isn't in line with the others, like in this video at 1:40;
http://youtube.com/watch?v=f4LBDbcCR-E
Maybe it's the same horn.
Anyway it doesn't answer the question but it's beautiful.
 

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Reedsplinter said:
This album was released in 1957, right? Is it possible he has one of those ambiguous "transitional" horns, either a VI with come characteristics of the SBA or vice versa? There was a thead about this recently. . . .
It is a '57 release. As far as it being a transitional horn, I don't know, I guess anything's possible, I'm far from an expert about this sort of thing . All the transitional horns I've ever seen have the SBA octave mechanism and neck, I was under the impression that if they didn't have those then they were 6's. As far as daigle65's point about the staggered posts, honesty I don't see that, and that's looking at the larger picture I linked to, not the tiny one the OP posted. To me, they look like what one would expect for a 6. I have a large poster of the Newk's Time cover, and he is clearly holding a 6 (as well as a monogrammed shirt - nice!). With the two sessions being so close together, chances are it's the same horn.

Okay, while I was typing you reposted, so disregard the above -
 
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