I don't think they get much money on the internet and should sell for no more than $35.00 or so. They don't make them anymore, as you said, so if you play them and like them, grab them. Lots of folks like them on the web. I recently bought an M11 and already owned an M5 alto and tenor.They sound something like a Dukoff or Guardala King . (I just tried out a Guardala King from WWBW and I like the tone of the Metalite better- not as thin. As they say, for the price you can't beat them.