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On first look, this mouthpiece has a baffle design that intrigues me. In my years of sax playing, I've seen and played flat/straight baffles, roll-over baffles as well as step-baffles. Nothing like this one in front of me. The Rousseau Studio Jazz soprano piece has a straight medium-length baffle that 'scoops' at an angle when it reaches the floor...and there is another 'secondary' step baffle into the chamber. I'm not sure how this works in terms of channeling the air-flow but after I played it, I felt the 'magic'.

1st observation: On my trusted Mark VI sop, this mouthpiece makes my horn resonate like never before. For the first time, I got the 'Mark VI' vibrations on my fingers when I blowed through the mouthpiece. I've experienced this 'vibrating-resonance' on my VI tenor but never on my sop. Even with my long-time preferred vintage Selmer scroll-shank 'Soloists', I didn't get these vibes. Amazing.

2nd obsevation: This mouthpiece can NEVER be over-blown. I'm playing a SJ6, with a #2 reed. And for the first time, I can put all the air into the piece and it maintains w/o overblowing. It take all the air I can give and the sound is pure. Now, the word 'pure' is very subjective. It isn't duckily-oboish. It isn't as smooth-jazzish like Kenny G's. It just makes me feel like I'm producing a pure soprano SAX sound. Amazing.

3rd Observation: There is a distinct 'core' or 'body' to the sound. On my other sop pieces, I either get a dark 'plastered on' flat sound with little/no overtones or a bright/piercing sound (esp on metal pipeces) that accentutates the overtones. On the Rousseau, I get a very 'balanced' EQ sound with a very good mid-range support or 'core' to it. And in my room, the sound just 'fills'. I feel like the sound 'envelopes' me instead of being projected straight out of my horn. Much like your favorite 'surround-sound' effect of your hi-fi system. Amazing.

This is a seriously underrated piece. I got mine used. Less than $50. I don't know what to say, after having owned countless vintage sop pieces that costs maybe 10 times as much. My Mark VI is picky when it comes to mouthpieces. I guess it has found one today.

The Rousseau Studio Jazz sop made my day.
 

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I like the sound I get on my '27 Conn Sop with a Selmer Super Session H and Rigotti 2 1/2 Med reeds. I like my Rousseau Studio Jazz SJ6 on Alto. Have you tried the Super Session on your Sop? If so, how does it compare?
 

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This is a seriously underrated piece.
I agree completely.

I've rebalanced a number of these into spectacular players. Here's what I wrote on my website about the first Rousseau 4R I had here a few years ago:

This modern Rousseau 4R is a compelling player with a solid core sound and bright, crisp response.

The sound is bright but not edgy at all. It's a great piece for classical and legit section playing, and modern saxophone quartets.

If you want a piece that plays evenly from bottom to top, with clarity and life, this is an excellent piece that has been completely rebalanced to play better than a new Rousseau.

These are VERY underrated pieces. The throat and baffle work make these special players.

It plays fabulously on all my horns, vintage and modern, with # 3 Vandoren traditional reeds.

This could be the best money you'll ever spend on your sound.

 

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I like the sound I get on my '27 Conn Sop with a Selmer Super Session H and Rigotti 2 1/2 Med reeds. I like my Rousseau Studio Jazz SJ6 on Alto. Have you tried the Super Session on your Sop? If so, how does it compare?
I've not tried the Super Session on my sop yet. The SJ6 is already giving me what I want. I try not to have G.A.S. again...
 

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Hi Joe

I think the Studio Jazz would have completely different baffle and throat designs as compared to the 4R...

I agree completely.

I've rebalanced a number of these into spectacular players. Here's what I wrote on my website about the first Rousseau 4R I had here a few years ago:

This modern Rousseau 4R is a compelling player with a solid core sound and bright, crisp response.

The sound is bright but not edgy at all. It's a great piece for classical and legit section playing, and modern saxophone quartets.

If you want a piece that plays evenly from bottom to top, with clarity and life, this is an excellent piece that has been completely rebalanced to play better than a new Rousseau.

These are VERY underrated pieces. The throat and baffle work make these special players.

It plays fabulously on all my horns, vintage and modern, with # 3 Vandoren traditional reeds.

This could be the best money you'll ever spend on your sound.

 

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Hi Joe

I think the Studio Jazz would have completely different baffle and throat designs as compared to the 4R...
I'm sure it's different. I just think that Rousseau soprano piece designs are under-appreciated and was glad to see such an enthusiastic and positive review.
Your description of the 2-tiered baffle sounds similar to a number of the Rousseau pieces I've had here.
 

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Your description of the 2-tiered baffle sounds similar to a number of the Rousseau pieces I've had here.
Yeah....come to think of it now...I think what I meant was...the 'secondary baffle' is actually at the throat area. The sharp 'drop' at the throat into the chamber might be the reason for the nice 'core' that I'm trying to describe. Amazing design. Mr Rousseau is a genius...
 

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See my signature ? I've been playing it for a couple of years. It does great, even with the Fiberreeds, which tend to sound quite edgy. The only point which can make it tricky is the intonation. On the Yani, it is fine. But on cheapos or vintages, the Rousseau needs more attention than eg the Yanagisawa No 5 I'm also using. But I guess most open and long facing mps are like this on soprano.
 

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It feels nice when you have something to 'push' against, when you're on soprano. I did not get that with most other sop pieces I've had. It's not really 'resistance'....but it feels like it...being able to give all your air...and the tone still sounds good...and it doesn't sound like you're pushing it at all...
 

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It feels nice when you have something to 'push' against, when you're on soprano. I did not get that with most other sop pieces I've had. It's not really 'resistance'....but it feels like it...being able to give all your air...and the tone still sounds good...and it doesn't sound like you're pushing it at all...
Great point.

The thing that can make even well faced soprano pieces fussy is that the "resistance" in the piece (as opposed to reed resistance) isn't carefully modulated. Too much resistance and it can be really uncomfortable; too little and it becomes harder for many players to control the subtleties of tone and even dynamics throughout the range of the instrument (the bottom responds one way and the top, another).
 

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SmoothJazzTenor - You are spot on with your assessment of the SJ6. I recently switched to a PPT, but for me the SJ6 beat everything I ever tried before. For the first time I had a mouthipece that I felt made my soprano sound like a saxophone rather than a hybrid with a flute, oboe, etc. I was very close to sending it to Joe because it just wasn't as responsive as I wanted, but then I heard the recordings of the PPT soprano on Pete's site and went for it instead. To me it is like playing a perfected SJ6. I may still send the SJ6 to Joe to fix up and use it as a backup. I like it that much. Pretty soon you will see my Morgans, Selmers, Yanis and other misc soprano mouthpieces up for sale as these are they only two that do anything for me now.
 

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Thanks for the review
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You're most welcome. In all my years of mouthpiece trading and trying, I'm not really compelled to write reviews for all my mouthpieces. But this one is special. It is kind of a 'breakthrough' for me, on soprano playing. It is a revelation. Hope you like my review.
 

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Just ordered a new one for 60 thanks for the review
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You are welcome. I'm sure you'll agree with me later that this is gonna be your best-spent 60 bucks.
Do post your comments here later.
Let us know what horn you are playing it with.
I would love to hear what other Mark VI sop users got to say, if they also play this mouthpiece.
 

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I just received it on monday and well i am disappointed with it but I have a Phil Barone Curved sax that I have some issues with so maybe its me or the sax lol
No instant Chops-in-a-Box???
 

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I just received it on monday and well i am disappointed with it but I have a Phil Barone Curved sax that I have some issues with so maybe its me or the sax lol
Rousseau designed his mouthpiece with the Yamaha straight sopranos in mind....I guess. So I'm assuming they work better with straight sops...
 
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