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I already did a review of the tenor Orion but in the same packet i also had an alto version (tip opening is 7). I do not own any alto Brilhart mpc to compare it to. Like the tenor version it looks great, no blemishes anywhere. So i simply did put a reed on (Rigotti 3.5 medium), a Star Series Rovner to strap it tightly and started to play. I often like Phil's alto moutpieces, the Solstice is great and i always liked the Intrepid, which is a very special and unique sounding mpc but this time i was completely blown away. Love at first blow. It is for me the right amount of power and warmth and flexibility that i like. It is more focused than the Solstice but still has the warmth. It has lots of power which can be controlled easily to also play old school jazz with the right sound. Often i feel like a mpc on alto is too bright or too dark, you play on a mpc and it sounds good but you know it could be difficult to play it in all the bands you are playing in and achieve all the sounds, that others expect you to produce for the style the band is playing. Therefore i always look for mpcs that give me the flexibility to get a lot of sounds out of the mpc because i don't like to switch mpcs for a different band. With this mpc i can easily get the sounds i need. Am i glad i bought this one. To me one of the best alto mpcs i have tried in a long time and i have tried many.

here is a short clip, done in a very dry room with a H4 N.

https://soundcloud.com/user-844412529%2Forion-alto-a
 

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Sounds like you are having fun - glad you are happy!
Phil is a master I find - I recently played his different models who can be played at Duchstein (saxophon-service.de) in Berlin,
all wonderful in their own right...
Yeah. i like it a lot. You know that a mpc is good when you just have fun playing it and can't stop playing it or don't want to change back to your regular mpc.
I am so glad Duchstein added Phil's mpcs to his inventory. But this mpc is only available directly from Phil.
 

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Just finished reviewing the new Phil-Tone Orion alto saxophone mouthpiece. This was such an easy mouthpiece to review because it played so easily and sounded so great right out of the gate. Beautiful, crisp light tone with focus. Add a little vibrato and it has a resonant singing quality to it. Great job Phil!! Check it out!

 

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+1. I got one recently specifically to back up my Tonalin, which despite a band has developed an ominous progressive crack.
How have you got on with the Orion? Have you played it much? And can I ask, does it play and sound like the Tonalin? I have a Marmaduke CNC plastic Tonalin version. Its very nice. But there is something slightly lacking in substance about the sound compared to my old Tonalin. I know the Phil Tone pieces tend to play like the very best versions of classics such as his Tribute.
 

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How have you got on with the Orion? Have you played it much? And can I ask, does it play and sound like the Tonalin? I have a Marmaduke CNC plastic Tonalin version. Its very nice. But there is something slightly lacking in substance about the sound compared to my old Tonalin. I know the Phil Tone pieces tend to play like the very best versions of classics such as his Tribute.
The Orion is now my daily player, which most days in on my Conn 6M. I find it "behaves" like the Tonalin in how it responds.

The Tonalin has a banded shank; at one point I had Mojo open it slightly to about a .075" after the tip got chipped and it had to be refaced anyway. I asked Phil for an Orion at .075" and punchier than the average Tonalin, but not like a dedicated lead mouthpiece. That's what I got. The Tonalin actually sounds bit brighter in the higher frequencies, but the Orion is richer in the middle, and that's where the extra zing is. I've compared it to a couple of Ebolins I have, with pretty much the same contrast between high frequency / middle. Honestly could be the Orion is as "bright" as the others, but the extra midrange has the effect of making the highs seem less prominent. Also I have a bit of high frequency hearing loss so I'm now an inherently unreliable narrator, so keep that in mind! :)

The beak on the Orion is a little thicker than my Tonalin, which is a Carlsbad era mouthpiece. The Orion's beak is a little closer to the thickness of a Great Neck-era Ebolin I've got, which is just a bit fatter in cross section than the Tonalin.

The secret is in the baffle. Most modern renditions of pieces dont have the right baffle. Too much and the piece can get thin and lack core. Trial periods are given on all non custom Phil-Tone pieces.
I can report that my Orion is not thin and does not lack core.
 

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The Orion is now my daily player, which most days in on my Conn 6M. I find it "behaves" like the Tonalin in how it responds.

I can report that my Orion is not thin and does not lack core.
Thank you so much for this detailed reply. Very helpful. I too play a (rather cracked) Tonalin on a 6M and am very happy with the sound. The price of the Orion is more attractive too. And I am less keen these days to buy older pieces from Ebay, finding it too hit and miss.
 
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