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just wanted to post my appreciation for sotw.

i tell ya, i'm learning so much about stuff here i wish i had've found it before i got serious about buying a sax. so much to know about different makes etc it's quite overwhelming but i'm gaining knowledge every time i come here - which is becoming more and more frequent.

..... and since frequenting this place i'm starting to get a serious case of gas. at which my wife is beginning to cast a baleful eye.
 

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Carbs said:
1) A mod
2) to understand the title, probably.
1. Hang on, Carbs!! You're not implying that correct spelling might make what people say more intelligible, are you? :shock: ;)

2. Hello marton.
 

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RootyTootoot said:
1. Hang on, Carbs!! You're not implying that correct spelling might make what people say more intelligible, are you? :shock: ;)

2. Hello marton.
Rooty is proof that spelling has little to do with being intelligible!
 

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If they left it "Respek" it would of been a bit confusing for me.

"RESPEK is an educational programme aimed at helping teenagers ( boys and girls) learn about their sexual bodily functions, as well as gain insights into the notions of self esteem, image and negotiation. It is hoped that with accurate information about their own physical and emotional developments, they would be better equipped in handling themselves when entering into relationships. If young people feel positive about themselves, they are more likely to develop healthy, caring relationships and less likely to be caught up in exploitative, unequal relationships. In the longer term, this will lead to family stability, affirmative family values and gender equality."

Unless that's what you were really after, then I'll just move along. ;)
 

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Let me put it this way: I didn't know what "tone" was before I came here.

As far as my knowledge as a musician is concerned, this website made me.
 

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saxmanglen said:
If they left it "Respek" it would of been a bit confusing for me.

"RESPEK is an educational programme aimed at helping teenagers ( boys and girls) learn about their sexual bodily functions, as well as gain insights into the notions of self esteem, image and negotiation. It is hoped that with accurate information about their own physical and emotional developments, they would be better equipped in handling themselves when entering into relationships. If young people feel positive about themselves, they are more likely to develop healthy, caring relationships and less likely to be caught up in exploitative, unequal relationships. In the longer term, this will lead to family stability, affirmative family values and gender equality."

Unless that's what you were really after, then I'll just move along. ;)
hah! great response.

hey haven't you guys got ali-g over there? the guy that does borat.

respek bruvva.
 

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Master.America said:
Let me put it this way: I didn't know what "tone" was before I came here.

As far as my knowledge as a musician is concerned, this website made me.
i can see it having a similar effect on me.

seriously, i'm learning pooploads. and tonguing! i didn't know it existed till i read about it here and now i'm practicing it on my girlfriend as well as my sax.
 

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Welcome to the Forum, Marton.

There is no question that you have the opportunity to learn much from the folks here, as well as to be immensely entertained from time to time. I do feel compelled to point out more directly what I suspect that the moderator, Rooty, and possibly saxmanglen were trying obliquely to suggest----that you may learn a great deal more and will certainly gain more RESPECT if you take the trouble to render your questions and replies in standard English, complete with capitalizing the pronoun "I." While tolerance for shortcomings is pretty broad, particularly for those whose first language is not English, we do have our limits. For example, Carbs has taken quite a pummeling (albeit with caring and concern for the success of his college applications) on this Forum for his poor grammar and careless spelling.

Saves time and aggravation if you write correctly and avoid cyberspeak and other esoteric generational and international usages. With that said, I again welcome you and hope to see you become a frequent visitor and rapidly progessing saxophone player.

Best regards, Ruth (aka Grumpessa)
 

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marton said:
and tonguing! i didn't know it existed till i read about it here and now i'm practicing it on my girlfriend as well as my sax.

Shhhh! You're giving away super secret sax stuff here!
 

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Welcome to the Forum, Marton.

There is no question that you have the opportunity to learn much from the folks here, as well as to be immensely entertained from time to time. I do feel compelled to point out more directly what I suspect that the moderator, Rooty, and possibly saxmanglen were trying obliquely to suggest----that you may learn a great deal more and will certainly gain more RESPECT if you take the trouble to render your questions and replies in standard English, complete with capitalizing the pronoun "I." While tolerance for shortcomings is pretty broad, particularly for those whose first language is not English, we do have our limits. For example, Carbs has taken quite a pummeling (albeit with caring and concern for the success of his college applications) on this Forum for his poor grammar and careless spelling.

Saves time and aggravation if you write correctly and avoid cyberspeak and other esoteric generational and international usages. With that said, I again welcome you and hope to see you become a frequent visitor and rapidly progessing saxophone player.

Best regards, Ruth (aka Grumpessa)
I think your reply is a little harsh. Especially given his motives for posting this thread.

Did you genuinely find his post difficult to read and comprehend? Or were you just looking for faults? If it is the latter, I suggest you buy "Eats Shoots and Leaves" and join the rest of us here in Middle England by tutting at every misplaced apostrophe. It is soul destroying.

There is "standard" English, and there is informal internet English. Sure, the chap didn't capitilise where he should, but there are worse things in life. He also started his post with an Australian twang, nothing wrong with that in this context. Just consider how many "Howdys" and "Y'alls" we have to wade through.

For example, your use of the word "folks" in this context doesn't mean much in England anymore, and is not in everday usage, almost archaic, but I get your point.

The guy was writing a thank you note, and trying to introduce some levity into it by referencing a globally successful film. He gets full credit from me for using the word "baleful".

He was not applying for a job. (He is Australian, he probably has one, shearing sheep ;) )

I do not want to start an almighty row, but I have to proof read for a living, and I did not wince once at his post. In this context it is fine. Maybe the "respek" was too far, but that has been altered and explained by the "Borat" reference.
 

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Marton,

I'll tell 'ya one thing - it is so much harder today to understand the various options you have than when I first got into playing. Back then Henri Selmer just started selling saxes .. oh wait .. that was before my time .. just kidding ...

In my High School/early College days there was not many options for Pro instruments. You had Selmer, Buffet, Yamaha was getting good with their 62s, I think Yani was just getting grips, Keilwerth (Couf at the time), Selmer USA had their VI copy and then the various other french horns which were not readily available; and Conn, King and other US makes.

WWBW was simply a mail order company known as WW (and their sister company BW) and most ppl still bought from local stores.

you basically bought what your teacher recommended .. which, of course, I didn't ... I bought a Selmer in "Couf-land" - but I ended up buying a Couf anyways as a backup (closet) horn.

anyways, the array of horns today is quite dizzying. Glad we could be of some help

(think we should stop bashing Carbs now ....)
 

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I tried playing the alto once before, back in the early 90's. I only played for 3 or 4 months and gave up. I had two lessons, I had a rubbish leaky bundy with a terrible mouthpiece. He never corrected this, and without a resource like this I soon floundered. Someone told me to try harder reeds (3s) after three months and bleeding lips, I packed.

Now, with a resource like this, I am flying!! This has been the single biggest contributor to my success. Don't focus so much on the equipment, once you are sorted, but do take advice on players to listen to, and improvisation tips.

Good luck, and remember, whatever tiny piece of advice or encouragement you can give to other beginners, do so freely here!
 

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marton said:
i can see it having a similar effect on me.

seriously, i'm learning pooploads. and tonguing! i didn't know it existed till i read about it here and now i'm practicing it on my girlfriend as well as my sax.

Hmmmm, I could have a field day with this and get banned for life.:evil:



Hey Marton, give your girlfriend our best.
 

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Pooploads???

I too would have way to much fun with this post. But will be nice.
Dang it, perfect chance.

Hey Marty,
Get the guy with the horn off the avatar spot. Put your wife with the Tommy. Coolest pic. I have seen in a while, a while ago.

~Carbs
 

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'Wife' is much easier on the eyes, but 'Tommy' is a big No-No.

Welcome to SOTW Marton!
 
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