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has anyone ever heard of a Rene Guinot french sax?
any thoughts?

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Try a search of the forum. It's most likely GuEnot rather than GuInot, but I recall posts for both versions.
 

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yes.... they were the best french horns from the 20-30. even won a gold medal for their design back in 1910. They made the first production of SML horns under the model name: La Strama Super. Split bell, microtuner, rolled tone holes. A sax completely identical to their own Super Artist - with a few exeptions: rolled tone holes, different low C Eb keys, Cup guard feet are different - other than that same sax.

Best silverplated horns I ever seen anywhere... perfect finish. Solder are not to good and post tend to fall of.... but hey work for guys like me. Very high quality mechanism exept for the pivot screws.
 

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I had one in my hands, yesterday: a curved soprano from the late XIX century. It was descending to B (not Bb) and the owner ruined it by adding an automatic octave key vent mechanism (that sax was born with the double key).
Quite fascinating, but I did not have the opportunity to play it... :(
 

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I had one in my hands, yesterday: a curved soprano from the late XIX century. It was descending to B (not Bb) and the owner ruined it by adding an automatic octave key vent mechanism (that sax was born with the double key).
Quite fascinating, but I did not have the opportunity to play it... :(
Wow interesting. Never seen a soprano from Guenot. Shame you didnt get to play it :)
 

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Well, if I may add, I DO have a Guinot...that is the spelling on mine, too. I suspect it to be the same maker, there may have been some reason for the spelling change.

The Soprano....do you know for sure it was Low Pitch ? The Guinot I have is a high-pitch Alto....not worth much of anything but quite pretty.

As Nuendosan says, if you search Guenot, there are a few threads here, and I do believe Helen over at Bassic Sax Blog wrote an article on the maker once....
 

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JayePDX could we have a photo of the Guinot? On the Guenot s I have seen the e looks much like an i because of the ´over the e.....

just a thought.

cant find any article on Guenot on Hellens blog....I should perhaps write her....
 

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I have a Rene Guinot soprano - bought for a song and it came with a selmer scroll shank D mouthpiece! - needed a new palm key making from scratch and Three tone holes soldering back on. I've now done all the work and re padded it.
Its a great Low pitch Sop and the intonation is spot on. A nice rich beefy tone in the lower register and sweet sounding gin the middle and upper registers. A keeper I think. :)
 

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funny, yours Jaye looks definitely a GuInot but there are GuEnots that are definitely GuInots & GuEnots around! (they were two different makers.........both calle René)


But this name Guinot (and the problem with Guenot) has come up before

http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?157027-A-task-for-the-saxophone-archaeologists/page2
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?204074-SML-forfather-found
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?135535-French-soprano-manufacturers
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?205449-Fabricating-missing-key





 

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from another thread


The number of makers and retailers in France was huge and like everywhere else there were brands which were producing woodwind and brass but there were many companies which only made one category while sold both and some didn’t make anything and bought them from one of the several dozens of makers.

Most brands where in Mantes but some weren’t, this for example bears the city names Lyon, Paris, Brun-Mandagout and Nimes.

They were mostly known for their brass instruments. In one ad they talk and advertise their simplified system with less keys and screws (maybe the reason of their demise?)

Be careful there will certainly be Pelisson, Guinot & Blanchon which were in HP! ( High pitch!)

Here from the archives of a French collector’s site.

http://rp-archivesmusiquefacteurs.blogspot.nl/2011/09/la-maison-pelisson-freres-et-saxophone.html


This appears to be a picture of their factory ( maybe a little optimistic? The second one could have been based on photograph and looks a lot smaller





and here the reference to these “ Georgeophones”



They appear to have been something like this




http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-

From their catalogue

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