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What do you do when you have to practice social distancing but also want to play one of the greatest big band tunes of all time? You get a few people together and record a remote big band video! Here is the great Thad Jones chart "Three and One." Hope you enjoy it!

 

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Now thats some great big band playing! Great stuff Dave, and very joyful to see in this period. Now giving me ideas of trying to do this SAT trio I have and match up my recordings...
 

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Now thats some great big band playing! Great stuff Dave, and very joyful to see in this period. Now giving me ideas of trying to do this SAT trio I have and match up my recordings...
Go for it!! You probably won't have more extra time than right now, so definitely give it a shot. It's a ton of fun!
 

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Fantastic!!! Really enjoyed the fine ensemble and solo playing and balance overall. Makes my day! Thanks for all your hard work to put this together
Thanks so much! It was a lot of fun (and work) to put together, and it's definitely worth it. We're going to be doing more tunes very soon!
 

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Fantastic piece of music, incredible precision work, very nice initiative. Thad’s arrangements are challenging, he had the best guys around, you guys are nailing it.

Excellent soloing, your drummer even got the mandatory Chinese cymbal, he seems an amazing musician too.
 

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Great job Dave. I have one question. Did you use a click track or was everybody just following the drummer?
 

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Great job Dave. I have one question. Did you use a click track or was everybody just following the drummer?
Drums are actually the last thing that were (and should) be recorded in remote ensembles like this. That way they can interact with the soloists, fill in hits better, etc.

Here is the order we did (I've done so many of these types of videos and have done it many different (wrong) ways before coming up with a system that I think is most musical and efficient
(everyone should be recording into a DAW so they have the option to mute certain parts, have them played louder, louder click, etc):

Make a practice track with keys, bass, and click. You can actually add a practice drum track as well but it will be deleted later - this is just if people want to have space filled up.
Horns record their parts within their sections including backgrounds (since each horn section is played by one person, minus the bari in this case because I don't have access to one right now!)
Add all of the horn parts to the main mix (still using the practice track)
Soloists play in the right spots, over the horn backgrounds and practice track
Then bass records, then keys/vibes/guitar, then finally drums.

I've found this way to be the best for everyone and makes the most sense musically to me. Also the audio person will be constantly updating the audio track in a shared folder so as parts are handed in, other musicians can choose to have them in their ears or not while recording.

This is also the same process I use when I play an entire chart myself (like "This Christmas" on December 1st where I played every big band part myself!)
 

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Great advice. I’m currently doing a remote project with 5 saxes and rhythm section, both as a tenor player and sound engineer. I’ll stick to your procedure, wasn’t sure when to add the real drummer. Currently we record our saxes over a BiaB trio.
 

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Thanks for posting your method, Dave. It seems counterintuitive to record the drums last but I sure like the end result of your technique.

And playing all the parts yourself makes paying other guys obsolete.
Wait, you get paid?
 

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Thanks for posting your method, Dave. It seems counterintuitive to record the drums last but I sure like the end result of your technique.
The drummer needs to react to soloists, and they can't do that if you record it first - they would sound like a backing track. Now you CAN record a drum part first for reference, but you would delete that and re-record a real part once everyone has laid their parts on top.
 

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Thanks for posting your method, Dave. It seems counterintuitive to record the drums last but I sure like the end result of your technique.
The drummer needs to react to soloists, and they can't do that if you record it first - they would sound like a backing track. Now you CAN record a drum part first for reference, but you would delete that and re-record a real part once everyone has laid their parts on top.
 
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