How 'bout that, John? Congrats and welcome to the Ref 36 club!John Laughter said:I have a question for you 36 owners; I have been playing a Selmer VII tenor and VII alto for years. They have both done well for the style gigs that I play. I wanted to look into a newer model sax and have tried a Yamaha Z, several K's including the Shadow and a Series III in matt and lacquer finish. Just received the Ref 36. What a horn!! It is a keeper.