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I guess some may think that the recording stuff may be somewhere else in thesi forum, but I really need the input from Selmer users.

When playing, the Series II seems to be the horn I like the most. When recorded, the Mark VI pleases me more.

If the recording system is a very good one, no difference from what I hear, pretty similar to the sound the have for me as I play.

But, if the recorded from a Videocamera.... wow... always the brighter the horn the better it sounds... The Mark VI and the Series III seem to sound better than the Series II.

Can anybody tell why? Is it because of the lower frequency waves that every Series II has in more abundance than the other horns?

All the best,

JI
 

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Come on!

Give me your inputs. Somebody may have had different experiences while recording your Selmers.

All the best,

JI
 

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If you have ever used a video camera to record a live band with vocals, you may notice that the music becomes quiet whenever the singer begins to sing. There is a feature in most home video cameras since the 1980's that will sacrifice the level of background noise (in this case music) in order to hear the human speech more clearly. The built in mics on these cameras will hone in on the frequencies common to the human voice. Evidentally in your case the camera's microphone perceives your Mark VI and Series III as a human voice. The darker tone of the Series II may just be out of this "smart" systems range.

After reading about your experience, I hooked up my own 8mm camera and recorded a few clips of me playing. My Series I (some say slightly darker than the II) did not pick up as well as my Chinese Bently. The Bently has a much brighter sound than the Selmer. In a true studio setting, the sound of the Selmer wins hands down, but the "smart" system on the camera seemed to favor picking up the brighter sound of the Bently.

You can bypass the "smart" system if your camera has a microphone input. If you hook up a good condensor mic, you will bypass the built in mic and should be able to get a better overall sound for your Series II.

I'm not really sure what they call this "smart" system on cameras. It seems to act like a compressor/limiter in some ways. If anyone here has heard video recordings of their band where the levels of the music seem to jump up and down, rest assured that it did not sound like that in person. There were times in the past when I'd jump in front of the PA because I thought that those recordings were accurate and that the soundman was out to screw me. Well, live and learn I guess. lol
 

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Well, after that it seems to suggest that in reality you really prefer your VI. It goes back to us not really being able to hear ourselves objectively while playing. If there are things about the other Selmer you like better you may need to play around with your setup a bit to get closer to what your after.
 
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