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I was wondering which mouthpiece would be better for classical. I currently own a selmer s-80 D but want something darker. I hear these are about as dark as it gets. thanks for the help.
 

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Neither is better than the other.
 

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Coming from a Selmer D, I'd say a Caravan Medium chamber would be a smoother transition. That will be much darker than your D. Moving from a D to a Rascher will feel like re-learning the horn all over again. The tip openings on the Raschers are insanely small. Rather than spend 100 bucks on a piece that only frustrates, I'd find a vintage Buescher for 30-40 bucks on ebay and learn how to play that. The Raschers are attempted replicas of these and many "Rascher school" players prefer these more affordable mouthpieces.
Even a Vandoren AL3 would be a good one to try as I find these nearly identical to the Caravan Med. Chamber.
 

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Buy both, if you can afford it. If not, then the Rascher for the darkest and the Caravan for being more versatile.

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Coming from a Selmer D, I'd say a Caravan Medium chamber would be a smoother transition. That will be much darker than your D. Moving from a D to a Rascher will feel like re-learning the horn all over again. The tip openings on the Raschers are insanely small. Rather than spend 100 bucks on a piece that only frustrates, I'd find a vintage Buescher for 30-40 bucks on ebay and learn how to play that. The Raschers are attempted replicas of these and many "Rascher school" players prefer these more affordable mouthpieces.
Even a Vandoren AL3 would be a good one to try as I find these nearly identical to the Caravan Med. Chamber.
Caravan does not make a medium chamber bari piece.

Vandoren's BL4 is an excellent classical bari piece with enough tip to get some air through it.
 

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thanks for the help so far. As for going with a smaller chamber as merlin said they don't make a medium chamber. How well do you think these mouthpieces would work on my 12m
 

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Caravan and Rascher bari pieces both work quite well on a 12M, assuming you're playing classical.
 
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