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Pre-amp with a wireless mic - question

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Talking about live sound here:

I am using the Samson wireless mic. The belt clip has what I believe to be a very basic pre-amp. Now, this is not a high-end system in the least bit...but it actually sounds quite decent. My only complaint are in the highs, where it seems to be a bit louder, and it does need a little warmth.

So, I would like to add warmth in the sound, as well as control the highs. My initial thought is some sort of compression to remove the highs and maybe a tube preamp to give some warmth.

Now, I'm not an expert....and I know there are a few on this board that really know their apples in regards to this stuff, so here is the question:

How about plugging a wireless reciever into a tube pre-amp to give it some warmth/added control. Does this make any sense considering that there is already a pre-amp (albeit it a lousy one) built in. Or are there any other suggestions.

And how about some compression to chill out the highs. And if so, any recommendations on approach/products.

Many thanks, and let me know if there is any additional info needed.

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Thanks for the good are a few more tidbits and clarification

It is a clip on lavelier-type. Interesting to know that the transmitter does have some compression built into it.

For your suggestions:

1. I'm assuming you are referring to how much gain I have set on the transmitter. I'll turn it down a bit.

2. I am assuming that this is related to gain also, but am not positive. Would you mind clarifying this. Also, the receiver has a volume control. Instruction on the unit said to have the volume all the way up. So I did....I only find that when I turn the volume down at the receiver, I have to compensate at the mixer (duh :)...nothing that really shows me why they recommend full volume at the receiver.

I have played with the mic placement. It is a clip-on, but I don't have it directly above the bell. I did find this helped out a good bit as opposed to the mic directly above the bell.

BTW - I normally have everything flat at the board.

I am referring to the highs in this context as the higher pitched notes on the horn. G2 and up. They are louder in this amplified situation than the rest of the horn. I can easily lay back on those notes, but I thought compression would solve this.

Thanks for the info again - I'll keep playing with it....just curious if another electronic gadget would be the answer.
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OK - great info guys...thanks much.

Hakukani - thanks for letting me know why not to use compression. After learning that it can mud up the sound, I realized that was the info. I was ultimately looking for, just didn't know if yet. Easy on the compression. Got it.

As for the Samson - I knew by the price that I wasn't getting anything on the elite end of things. There is only one venue where I use my wireless rig, and thats only because there is very little stage space, and the bar patrons were tripping over my mic stand.

And thanks for the suggestion of a sound processor. I'm pretty much an anti-gear head. I've been playing on the same two horns for 15 years. I made a mouthpiece switch 5 years ago, and that was a big deal. I was thinking about something like this for a while, but have been real hesistant to go beyond what I am comfortable with. Sounds like it could be worth the plunge.

Thanks again....

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