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Four days ago I had two wisdom teeth removed and i spent the first 2 days bleeding nonstop and then swelling like crazy. My whole face is really swelling up and my gums are also making it so i can just barely close my front teeth. After reading some forum posts ive been getting really scared after reading about people that haven't fully recovered for over 6 months and their tones and embouchure's being destroyed. This is especially concerning for me because people really love my sound and that's what i work hardest on. For the past days I've been fingering through lots of stuff and doing a lot of composing but I'm really getting anxious after not playing for so long and I'm really worried about how long it could possibly take to heal. Also if it matters I'm only 14 years so I might possibly heal faster than an adult and when i practice I usually practice 3+ hours a day alone and i hope to be able to get back to that soon. Sorry about the long post but i really need an idea about how long its gonna be before i can get back to normal.
 

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Also if it matters I'm only 14 years so I might possibly heal faster than an adult and when i practice I usually practice 3+ hours a day alone and i hope to be able to get back to that soon.
It's better to get it out of the way at your age. I'm 40 and have all my wisdom teeth. So far, so good, but it's a ticking time bomb...

At your age, it's an inconvenience. At my age, it affects how I feed my family. Better that you're having it done now.

But even if I had to lay off for six months I'd still have the concept of how I want to sound in my head. From there I could re-establish my technique with patient, disciplined practice.

It sounds like you've found other ways to occupy your practice time. Transcribe, work on piano skills, listen to music...there are many ways to effectively use that time. And there's nothing wrong with taking a break now and then...
 

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I would think it should only be a few weeks at most before being able to practice again.
Your tone is unlikely to suffer too much.
Ice on the swelling and regular rinsing with salted water.
I had a molar pulled about 2 years ago.
It was cracked and the extraction was very difficult for the dentist to remove.
She had to cut into my jaw bone which left a very open socket which still has not grown over.
It was bleeding constantly for 48 hours, but found that biting down on a teabag helped a little with that.
I was playing again after about a week without any issues.
 

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I had four out at once, was playing again two weeks later.

However for the first few days it's extremely uncomfortable and painful, I could only eat soup and I thought I would never play again. But it settled down and I was soon playing again.
 

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No problem at all. It will not hurt your embouchure and will probably help your tonging. Mine got better. This is because there will now be more room in your mouth. It's an improvement.
 

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I had a couple out a few years ago. Woke up from the general feeling rather good, and wondered what all the fuss was about.
By the evening I was whining like a stuck pig. This went on for days.
Can't recall how long it was before I got back to playing...but it wasn't long, and despite my fears that it would make a difference, it didn't. Not to tone, tuning or stamina.

In any event, a bit of 'forced downtime' is good for you - makes you all the keener when you get back into playing and gives the old brain time to digest (but don't rush it...better to heal first).
 

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Four days ago I had two wisdom teeth removed and i spent the first 2 days bleeding nonstop and then swelling like crazy. My whole face is really swelling up and my gums are also making it so i can just barely close my front teeth.
If you whole face is swollen and your gums bleeding nonstop I would go to the ER. You may be experiencing a reaction to the anesthetics.

Wisdom teeth are wimpy teeth with short roots and it shouldn't create much fuss to have them removed unless they are positioned above the molars in which case it is whole a different story.

This reminds me, at your age, I had four real teeth removed to please a perfectionist orthodontist. It was the ones right before the molars, the name/numbers of which I cannot remember. That was a load of fun. One assistant holding my head and the dentist working for about one and a half hours per tooth to extract them. That is no exaggeration, if anything an underestimate. They were really, really well attached. It was done in three or four sessions. I didn't play sax at that time, so no problem there, but I do remember feeling as if I had a concussion every time. I can still remember the face of the exasperated agonizing dentist working up a sweat with muted cursing over having to pull out four perfectly healthy teeth. I am sure the orthodontist is sitting pretty and that the detriment to my parents finances has been mended, but I still have gaps where them four shiny teeth used to be.

BTW, my wisdom teeth are gone as well but I frankly don't remember where or when that happened.
 

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Four days ago I had two wisdom teeth removed and i spent the first 2 days bleeding nonstop and then swelling like crazy...
Give yourself some rest and let your body heal.

Don't get wound 'round a post worrying about it. That will change nothing for the better. When you've healed, resume practice - don't rush the healing. It's your body's job and you need to let it happen.

If your embouchure isn't what it used to be when you resume playing, it's because it has not yet fully developed - give it a few more years.

Take some time to read a BOOK rather than the internet for a few days. Your body might enjoy a change.

Be well.

P.S. I lost my wisdom teeth a long time ago too. As soon as I was designated for submarine duty, out they came. The Navy was funny about removing wisdom teeth because they had no tolerance for dental emergencies when a submarine was in a place where surfacing might have been "inconvenient". Having my wisdom teeth removed only improved my tone - either that, or several more years of playing improved my tone. It's hard to do an A/B comparison. :bluewink:
 

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I'm sorry that there is no real answer for this. You have had Major surgery. It s not something to take lightly. The less you do now the faster you will be back playing.

All I can suggest to you is to start doing some if the things that don't require you to blow. Piano, transcription, objective listening, ear training even practicing just using the sax keyboard and not blowing (Coltrane did that on planes).

I was lucky enough to have my wisdom teeth come in with fairly little effort/ pain. Only both of mine started coming it when I was 21 and already a working "professional". Count yourself lucky that even though you had to get them removed that it happened while it did.

The longest I've ever been out is 1 week when someone punched me in the face trying to steal my instrument. Two of my teeth went through my lower lip. I couldn't sleep for 4 days also.

I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
 

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Thanks for the help and recommendations I'm glad to hear that there may be some benefits such as helping with tonguing which has always been a problem from me. I've been writing a few arrangements and composing some. I've also been reading Coltrane's biography which has been really interesting and I read that later at night he'd just practice fingerings which the said in the book is a good exercise for improvising so I've been spending about an hour a day doing that. Mostly though I've been listening to tons of music. Right now I'm trying to get into more modern jazz musicians (I usually listen to Coltrane, Miles, Bird, Diz, Mingus and the older jazz artists) so I bought some Joshua Redman Live at Village Vanguard which I love and I bought some Chris Potter and James Carter. As for healing the swelling has gone down quite a bit and i can close my mouth and eat more solid food. I'm going back to the surgeon on Thursday (a week from the surgery) and hopefully they'll give me the OK to play again. Thanks for the ideas and tips on what to do while recovering and i hope i can get back to playing soon.
 

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I just had 2 out this Spring. Don't even think about putting a mpc in your mouth for at least 2 full weeks. If you accidentally put air with pressure into those sockets you could be in a world of hurt. Good luck
 

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If anyone is interested I got back to playing on Thursday a week after the surgery and i've been playing great. I may actually be playing better, low notes seem to come out so much easier (I used to have to slide into them), tonguing seems easier and I feel my tone may be better. To be honest I almost recommend this surgery as at least for me the recovery wasn't to terrible and these benefits seem to really be helping me.
 

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I believe the surgery is worth having if there's a chance the teeth will cause problems later. My dentist explained it was bets to have them out at my convenience, rather than while on tour.

I doubt the removal of teeth causes an improvement, but time off fromplaying often does.
 

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I had my wisdom teeth removed months back. Taking the time to allow your mouth to heal is worth it. You can still take the horn out and run your fingers over your music to keep your technique from falling too dramatically, but it's best to leave it out of your mouth while the stitches are in and then a few days past. I was lucky in that only one tooth gave me trouble coming out and I didn't need pain killers for more than a couple of days. However straining anything is only going to make things take longer and will hurt more than it will help.
 

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You should rest at least two weeks. I KNOW a few musicians who have really had a hard time with recuperating and playing. Talk to a good dentist a specialist even I think the endodontist is the guy who does root canals and other major teeth surgeries. Best wishes.

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Been over a week. How are you holding up?
I remember my dad telling me a while back about what he did when he had his wisdom teeth out - he threw a party. Why? Because why the Hell not? Better hurry up before it's too late!
 

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All 4 out at once

I been there

repeat after me

1. "3 grain codeine"

2. "veggitate"

and so on.
 

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Ya 2 weeks now and after the first i started playing again with absolutely no problems (and maybe some improvements?). Actually only 9 days after the surgery I had to do jazz band for 8 hours a day and absolutely nothing wrong, no dry sockets or bleeding. Overall I think it was worth it to get this done young and its wasn't nearly as bad as i expected.
 
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