[yingski]

Ok i know that i might possibly get shot for asking this but i just can't quite get it straight. I have a old Keilwerth 1951, it's a big bore horn. So which mouthpiece type was supppose to be better for this?? Was it the big chamber or the smaller chamber?? Longer face or shorter? I've read conflicting info about this and i'm just confused. I now use a Selmer C* and it's fine, i have no intonation problems except way up high but that's probably just me. But there is a stuffiness in the D2 which i really don't like. So if i were to consider another mp am i looking for a Large chamber or a small chamber for this horn??
Thanks
Y

 

[gary]

Y - if the mpc is working for you keep it. About the D2 it's not unusual for that note to be stuffy but I've had some mpcs work better on that note than other mpcs. If I were you, I wouldn't worry about it, nor go through all the grief of getting tons of advice here on different mpcs and trying them out, rather I would just borrow some mpcs from time to time and see if they make a difference. I suppose some purists might say you should use a larger chamber mpc on that sax but I played a Selmer S80 C* on a Conn 6M which I would assume is similar in bore size to yours, and it worked just fine.

 

[yingski]

OH i'm not planning on getting rid of it but classical music is not what i'm playing so i'm eventually going to get something else and i like to do my homework a bit before that time.
I'm very grateful to have done my homework when getting the horn too or i might have ended up with something really shiney that played like ..... bad... as it is i'm totally in love with this sax.

 

[gary]

Y - try to work in a trip to Deventer sometime to the Saxofoonwinkel. Great folks work there and they have a huge selection items. http://www.saxshop.nl/de/

 

[crazydaisydoo]

I play a selmer c* on my Martin "The Martin" Alto, 1957 and it sounds lovely.

Gary gives good advice, stick with it. My jodyjazz HR5 runs it a close second, but its sounds like you have a winning combination!

 

[milandro]

nothing wrong with your moutpiece, try anything you can get your hands on, it wil give you extra information on mouthpieces and maybe you will find something which you like better. The stuffy D2 is very common almost all tenors have it, if you want to improve it , while you use the normal finger position for D2 squeeze also the high D . It will open it up, but it is rather fiddly

 

[yingski]

Thanks guys, i will keep working with the mp that i have now, i might need to go up on reeds but that never seems to feel right so i thought maybe a bigger tip opening might work.
Gary, i will try to get to that saxshop sometime and also i'll ask my teacher what he thinks. Thanks again...... so .... large chamber?..... hahahaha

 

[gary]

Now that crazydaisydoo (cdd) mentioned it, FYI I, I've also played a Runyon Custom (similar to cdds JJ), a Jody Jazz ESP, and a Meyer on my Conn. They all sounded good (well - as good as the player ), and I think they're all relatively medium chambered mpcs.

 

[milandro]

really the best definition of a classical mouthpiece was thought by someone else (sorry I forgot who...) : A classical mouthpiece is the one you use to play classical music .....the Selmer is a good and versatile piece, the only thing is that it might be a little too resistant , growing with the tip helps but not very much because the chamber has the square narrowing point of this mouthpiece. Selmers in general have this construction, but different shape of the squueeze, with one exeption, the Selmer Super Session. A very good mouthpiece too.
The shop in Holland which Gary advised is a very good one and by all means go there but if you need other addresses in the rest of the country, and Deventer is too far for you, I can help you.

 

[Martinman]

really the best definition of a classical mouthpiece was thought by someone else (sorry I forgot who...) : A classical mouthpiece is the one you use to play classical music .....

That was me.

 

[milandro]

That was me.

and really good it was!

 

[yingski]

Ok seems like this mouthpiece is really getting a stuffy sound to me, could just be that i have some major dud reeds but....

 

[markm]

MP for big-bore German

Here's a simlar thread from the Kohlert section that has some good ideas:

http://www.saxontheweb.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=54967

As for me, I chased a lot of MPs and in the end came back to my Bilger piece (.06) for my Kohlert... although an ancient Buescher style (.065) was a close second. I'm also digging a wood C-mel piece that Mojo reworked for me. It gives a nice spread sound that is 'tenorish'.

markm

 

[yingski]

hm.... i like the idea of sounding tenorish...
I might eventually have to go for something with a bigger tip opening because it just seems to be too stuffy for my liking right now.

 

[markm]

Alto MP 'tenorized'

Mojo's web site gives a brief description of this often-sought after quality. See the FAQs at:

http://www.mojomouthpiecework.com/FAQ/tabid/55/Default.aspx

He's done exactly this with a Penzell-Mueler Alto MP of mine that was unplayable and unsellable. He opened it up to .085 and scooped out the chamber with very little baffle. The end result is that is looks a lot like a C-mel MP and now plays well with a soft reed(1.5). He also refaced a wood C-mel with similar dimensions that's like a dream on my Martin C-mel and is a nice alternative for my altos. I love the feel of wood and think that I will grow into the Penzell-Mueller.