[magical pig]

Random Noodling

Go ahead, I'm French I deserve it. I hear plenty myself already but I'm sure outside ears will come up with different point of views.

 

[marton]

Nothing to be mean about really. That's some nice noodles.

I think the dog dug it as well

 

[Jonathan C.]

I don't like the french, but that aside. Nice noodleing though.

 

[magical pig]

but that aside

:lol:

Well the point of the thread is to criticize my playing, especially tone and articulation. I mean, unless I played like Chris Potter, there should be some things I could do better.

Here's a little motivational picture that may help get you in the right frame of mind...

http://www.pigin****.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/pretentious-frenchman.jpg

 

[mike713]

you have a really beautiful tone, man.

the one thing I would say is that your fast lines (I would say double-time but there wasn't really any time per se) could use a little more shape/more accents a la Bird, Rollins or Cannonball... it's something I noticed because I'm working on it too.

 

[magical pig]

you have a really beautiful tone, man.

Wow, really? Thanks. Most of the time when I hear myself I'm more like this = :doubt:

the one thing I would say is that your fast lines (I would say double-time but there wasn't really any time per se) could use a little more shape/more accents a la Bird, Rollins or Cannonball... it's something I noticed because I'm working on it too.

Ha..HA!! Cool, thanks for the pointer. I will be working on it. I may have been slacking off tongue-wise these last few months.

I think the dog dug it as well

I wish she did but she was complaining...

 

[jrvinson45]

I like your sound, maybe it's just a "noodling" artifact, bit it sounds as if you don't end your phrases, rather you just let them go... I get the feeling that your balloon just runs out of air. It's not as if you wouldn't terminate a passage were it a known, or even written phrase but you just aren't paying attention to your "finished" phrase.

I still like it, but I thought you might want some nits to be picked by the non-contenders.

 

[CooolJazzz]

Well since you asked us to be mean...I'll have to agree with the dog in the background. Leave it to a Frenchman to torture his little four-legged friend for no reason.

(All of the above said in jest for the sake of meanness of course... :bluewink: )

 

[saxmanjack]

Nice solid, meaty tone. Which mouthpiece are you on there?

Sorry, I was mean yesterday, and don't expect to be mean again 'til tomorrow.

 

[magical pig]

I like your sound, maybe it's just a "noodling" artifact, bit it sounds as if you don't end your phrases, rather you just let them go... I get the feeling that your balloon just runs out of air. It's not as if you wouldn't terminate a passage were it a known, or even written phrase but you just aren't paying attention to your "finished" phrase.

I still like it, but I thought you might want some nits to be picked by the non-contenders.

Hehe... I'm guilty of not resolving my lines but, yeah, the noodling factor did not help. Thanks for the feedback.

Well since you asked us to be mean...I'll have to agree with the dog in the background. Leave it to a Frenchman to torture his little four-legged friend for no reason.

(All of the above said in jest for the sake of meanness of course... :bluewink: )

:lol: I think she'll be alright.

Nice solid, meaty tone. Which mouthpiece are you on there?

Sorry, I was mean yesterday, and don't expect to be mean again 'til tomorrow.

Double line STM .097, RJS 3S on an early MKVII.

 

[Wade Cornell]

Tone and technique sound good. I know it's just noodling, but in the beginning it sounds mostly like riffs and a lot of finger memory stuff. But at 1:02 there is a real melodic phrase that sounds as though it's from you and it's beautiful, then you screw it up with a bunch of nonsense arpeggios. If it was all like at 1:02 it would be all praise as this was baring your soul and communicating something real. The rest was practice room stuff, not good enough to be called noodling.

Tough enough?

 

[magical pig]

Tone and technique sound good. I know it's just noodling, but in the beginning it sounds mostly like riffs and a lot of finger memory stuff. But at 1:02 there is a real melodic phrase that sounds as though it's from you and it's beautiful, then you screw it up with a bunch of nonsense arpeggios. If it was all like at 1:02 it would be all praise as this was baring your soul and communicating something real. The rest was practice room stuff, not good enough to be called noodling.

Tough enough?

Yeah that's great and I agree, this was mostly lick or pattern based. I wouldn't call it true expression or anything. That's what I thought noodling meant.

 

[gary]

Here's a little motivational picture that may help get you in the right frame of mind...

For what? Same sex marriage? :mrgreen:

http://www.pigin****.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/pretentious-frenchman.jpg

 

[mike713]

Wow, really? Thanks. Most of the time when I hear myself I'm more like this = :doubt:

Yeah man I know the feeling. I can usually only stand to listen to a recording of myself once or twice even if I thought it was good while playing it. It's tough sometimes but I think it's really helpful... my teacher has even gotten me into transcribing myself which can be hard on the ego, but of course very educational haha.

 

[magical pig]

For what? Same sex marriage? :mrgreen:

Well, maybe you have a weird fetish for French male stereotypes Gary? :twisted: I put the pic their because it's called "pretentious-frenchman.jpg"

Yeah man I know the feeling. I can usually only stand to listen to a recording of myself once or twice even if I thought it was good while playing it. It's tough sometimes but I think it's really helpful... my teacher has even gotten me into transcribing myself which can be hard on the ego, but of course very educational haha.

Man, what a torture exercise: transcribing yourself!! I wonder how guys who can really play feel when they hear themselves on a recording.

 

[FawltyTenor]

I really liked the sound as well, would like to have heard more variety as far as dynamics, articulation, etc.

Agree somewhat with what Wade was saying, there was a lovely moment there...liked to have seen that developed.

Ultimately, I think hearing an actual piece would be easier to provide commentary about. Sounds like you have pretty solid technique and sound, if you were playing with more investment or intent then I think it would provide a better impression of where your coming from musically.

Shawn

 

[mike713]

Man, what a torture exercise: transcribing yourself!! I wonder how guys who can really play feel when they hear themselves on a recording.

I guess the only way to really find out is to become a guy who can really play haha

You should check it out though, it's tough but you'll learn a lot. It's good because you can hear best what you were TRYING to play, but by transcribing it you can figure out how to execute your own ideas better.

 

[magical pig]

I really liked the sound as well, would like to have heard more variety as far as dynamics, articulation, etc.

Agree somewhat with what Wade was saying, there was a lovely moment there...liked to have seen that developed.

Ultimately, I think hearing an actual piece would be easier to provide commentary about. Sounds like you have pretty solid technique and sound, if you were playing with more investment or intent then I think it would provide a better impression of where your coming from musically.

Shawn

Thanks for the feedback! I agree, a tune, or at least an intent at developing something would have been a better starting point.

I guess the only way to really find out is to become a guy who can really play haha

You should check it out though, it's tough but you'll learn a lot. It's good because you can hear best what you were TRYING to play, but by transcribing it you can figure out how to execute your own ideas better.

This makes a lot of sense. Great idea.

 

[warp x]

Good sound, good control. Your lines could do with a little more rhythmic punctuation, using air and tongue IMHO.

 

[magical pig]

Good sound, good control. Your lines could do with a little more rhythmic punctuation, using air and tongue IMHO.

Thank you! It seems that's the big one.