I just want to get some thoughts and opinions. Now in my area we don't have a union. I'm very familiar with the pros and cons of a union; my wife is a member of the Screen Actors Guild. I'm having some trouble getting some guys for a low paying gig. The club owner is getting a reputation for paying less than other clubs and guys say that for playing less than other clubs pay they are "bring down the scene" and a "downward spiral'. I understand all that. I really do. HOWEVER, sometimes I feel like I don't owe "the scene" a &^$$# thing. I've been "off the scene" for a couple of years now due to some other issues. When I was booking a lot of dates I was getting more than the average pay here and I was paying guys as much or more than other people [in all fairness, I am still talking about fairly low money bar gigs]. I was also booking guys for weddings and getting them the "going rate" or better. I NEVER took extra as a leader cut. Here's the dilemma... those guys NEVER booked me. They always seemed to like playing with me and never turned down any gigs. I'm no monster player but I don't suck either and I THINK my reputation is OK [it's hard to know, isn't it]. So what loyalty should I have to the scene? I want to play out more and often times those cheap bar gigs lead to good money coctail parties and wedding receptions. It also makes me a better player to play out more and do more networking. If I'm not getting calls, why should I give a rat's $^&^% what the going rate is? Sounds cold, doesn't it? But I'm starting to feel that way. So far I haven't under cut anybody EVER, not once in 25 years. And I'm not talking about going to where a band is playing and saying I'll do it for less. I'm just talking about doing gigs in other clubs in town or on weeknights in a place that usually only books weekends. I'm just starting to think "loyalty to WHO"? I mean ***? I'd appreciate y'all's thoughts on any of this.Thanks.