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Otto Link and Berg Larsen moutpiece identification

Hey all. I'm trying to get some relevant info and approximate value, year, etc. for these three mouthpieces. New to the scene so don't know much about them. Based on the research i've already done the "master link four star" is late 20's or early 30's. The other Otto is later 30's. That's about as far as i've got. Any help is thanked much.

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Some more pics are needed, no value can be put on these without seeing how messed around they are so you need to post pics of the tip rails, facings chamber etc.

Also, a better thread title would be good, looks a bit like click bait as if there is some joke...
 

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If the Berg is original (the bite insert has been replaced but I mean the facing) it would be a desired type, 105/3 offset M, from the late '50s or so. That's a good facing for many players as opposed to an .080 or .140 for example.
 

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Your oldest Otto Link is a Four**** model with tip size 4. It's produced between 1935 and 1940. Depending on state it can be between 350 and 500 USD.

The other Otto Link is a first model Tone Master with original ligature, produced between 1940 and 1946. I could find the tip size on your pictures (it should be on the table). Depending on state the value can be between 400 and 600 USD.

See for more information about Otto Link mouthpieces this thread:
https://forum.saxontheweb.net/showt...etal-quot-Otto-Link-Identification-quot-chart

I don't know enough about Berg Larsen mouthpieces, but it looks your piece has some issues at the rails. Value could be 250 to 400 USD, depending on state.

Prices are all rough guesses!
 

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Also, a better thread title would be good, looks a bit like click bait as if there is some joke...
Exactly so... I clicked on it to hear the punch line.
 

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Re: Otto Link and Berg Larsen moutpiece identification

Hey all. I'm trying to get some relevant info and approximate value, year, etc. for these three mouthpieces. New to the scene so don't know much about them. Based on the research i've already done the "master link four star" is late 20's or early 30's. The other Otto is later 30's. That's about as far as i've got. Any help is thanked much.

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The Links aren't worth much at all unless you get someone that doesn't know any better, they're not players, just doorstops. I don't know about the Bergs, I never thought much about them but you might be able to sell it. Phil Barone
 

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Otto Link and Berg Larsen walk into a bar.
Otto says to Berg “hey, what’s with the crooked face?”.
Berg replies “my face isn’t crooked, it’s just your distorted view from your concave table”.
Otto replies”my table may be concave, but at least I don’t lie about my size”.
 

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The Links aren't worth much at all unless you get someone that doesn't know any better, they're not players, just doorstops.
Some guys could get decent sounds out of them (early Lester Young, Herschel Evans, Ben Webster, early Coleman Hawkins, early Dexter Gordon, early Johnny Griffin, Illinois Jacquet, early Arnett Cobb, to just name a few). :bluewink:

Otto Link and Berg Larsen walk into a bar.
Otto says to Berg “hey, what’s with the crooked face?”.
Berg replies “my face isn’t crooked, it’s just your distorted view from your concave table”.
Otto replies”my table may be concave, but at least I don’t lie about my size”.
:mrgreen:
 

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Some guys could get decent sounds out of them (early Lester Young, Herschel Evans, Ben Webster, early Coleman Hawkins, early Dexter Gordon, early Johnny Griffin, Illinois Jacquet, early Arnett Cobb, to just name a few). :bluewink:
I think I get a halfway decent sound from my Masterlink and 4**** Baritone pieces.
Leo Parker did alright with his too.
 

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Some guys could get decent sounds out of them (early Lester Young, Herschel Evans, Ben Webster, early Coleman Hawkins, early Dexter Gordon, early Johnny Griffin, Illinois Jacquet, early Arnett Cobb, to just name a few). :bluewink:
There's no way they'd compete with a more modern one and the volume will never be there. Phil Barone
 

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There's no way they'd compete with a more modern one and the volume will never be there. Phil Barone
I know Phil (I own a big vintage Link collection), but to state that "they're not players, just doorstops" is just a bit over the top (I know some very small tip ones can be doorstops).

Guys like Cobb and Jacquet could scream on those old Tone Master in the 40's Lionel Hampton band. I know those old bands where a bit less loud than what's happening today and they probably also had their Links opened up a bit, but they sounded huge. Cobb changed to a 10 tip Florida STM in the 50's, but Jacquet stayed on his old Tone Master (tip around a 7) and I've seen him many times live playing very loud on that piece.
 

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Alright, but you don't think he got that rockin sound on Rollin with Leo on that piece do you? At least I can't imagine it. Phil Barone
I don’t know.
Unfortunately there is very little information available on Leo Parker.
Perhaps his Masterlink was modified?
Mines been opened to .110 and I can get a reasonably beefy sound from it.
It’s not overly loud though.
And I don’t have a fraction of his abilities.
 

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I don’t know.
Unfortunately there is very little information available on Leo Parker.
Perhaps his Masterlink was modified?
Mines been opened to .110 and I can get a reasonably beefy sound from it.
It’s not overly loud though.
And I don’t have a fraction of his abilities.
Yeah, and I think he died young too. There's nothing about him around and he was amazing. Phil
 

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Re: Otto Link and Berg Larsen moutpiece identification

The Links aren't worth much at all unless you get someone that doesn't know any better, they're not players, just doorstops. I don't know about the Bergs, I never thought much about them but you might be able to sell it. Phil Barone
Brecker could make a “doorstop” play.
 
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