Other necks on Tenor 82Z?

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Mark R

Discussion Starter · Aug 4, 2007

Proud new owner of a lacquered Tenor 82Z. I'd like to know what other aftermarket necks anyone else with a 82Z has had success with. I am happy with the G1 neck but I like to know what else is out there that works well. I'm most interested in maybe getting a solid silver neck.

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shmuelyosef

· #2 · Aug 4, 2007

I tried a Selmer sterling neck, just because it fit. Worked fine, good intonation, but the horn lost that wonderful responsiveness. I'm just sticking with the G1 and playing without thinking about buying tenors for the first time in a long time. Just sold my Mad Meg, and thinking about what to part with next...maybe my Super 20!!!!

These Zs respond like they're jumping out of their skin...

jeff

gary

· #3 · Aug 4, 2007

Mark, please check your PM.

Mark R

Discussion Starter · #4 · Aug 4, 2007

Jeff....I tend to agree with your assessment of the G1. It's a new ride...so I need to learn to harness the power, get dialed-in/calibrated to the horn and live with it for a while. I'm excited because I've got 2 gigs to play today and I plan to use the Yamaha on both.
Thanks for your viewpoint, I appreciate it.

saxxsymbol

· #5 · Aug 4, 2007

i have a peter ponzol neck i use on mine when i want a darker, more vintage sound. i use the G 1 for more contemporary music. both have excellent intonation and response just a different sound. the ponzol reduces the higher harmonics in the tone and emphasizes the lower harmonics.

HonkBopSax

· #6 · Aug 4, 2007

I have an Oleg that i use on Saturday's. A Selmer that I use on Friday's, unless the gig is in a big room, then I use a Ponzol. If there's a female singer, I'll probably use my Barone neck because it's engraved and shiny. If it's a rock band - gotta use the Germanic K-werth neck. Ahh, but if it's retro, that's when the GLoger comes in handy.

I dunno...I played my Couf neck until it snapped. Then I got a Keilwerth, which is pretty much a replica. No difference. The only difference was when I went to an Oleg neck, and that made a HUGE difference. Otherwise, I don't like messing with necks. What's the point? I'd rather mess with my practicing and work ont hat then worry about the subtle differences between one or another...

shmuelyosef

· #7 · Aug 4, 2007

Sounds like you 'mess around with necks' a lot for someone that doesn't like it. You 'snapped' a Couf neck???

Gonna play rock n' roll on my Z tenor at a pool party all afternoon today with the G1 neck...just like Yamagod intended

BariMelt

· #8 · Aug 4, 2007

I had never messed with aftermarket necks until about 3 months ago. I purchased a Barone neck for my 82Z tenor because Phil was selling them for $200 at the time. My G1 had a little ding that was fixed, and I wondered if it effected the sound any. I do like it better than the G1. It's a little darker and plays with easy. The slight difference in position is actually a little more comfortable. (That's the first thing I noticed when I played on it.) It also seems a little easier on altissimo, of which I am no master, but who knows if that just my imagination. So now, I play on nothing but the Barone. Hmmm....wonder what the Ponzol would play like.

HonkBopSax

· #9 · Aug 5, 2007

shmuelyosef said:
Sounds like you 'mess around with necks' a lot for someone that doesn't like it. You 'snapped' a Couf neck???

Gonna play rock n' roll on my Z tenor at a pool party all afternoon today with the G1 neck...just like Yamagod intended

I was being sarcastic. I did snap my first Couf neck from doing stupid stuff while i was playing that weakened the metal. I had it braced ones but it cracked again. I replaced it with a Keilwerth since it's the same basic thing and that served me well until my repairman had me try an Oleg. Whoo...those are killer.

saxxsymbol

· #10 · Aug 5, 2007

i think the ponzol and barone play very similar. the price difference is because peter makes his own and phil has his made for him. i bought the ponzol first on tenor then tried the barones when they were on sale for the alto. i thi9nk i would have liked the barone on tenor just fine if i hads tried that first.both darken the sound a little and take some edge off. both have outstanding intonation.

BariMelt

· #11 · Aug 5, 2007

That's comforting to know and takes away some of the GAS attack when looking at the Ponzol necks. Does anyone know who make the Barone necks?

gary

· #12 · Aug 5, 2007

BariMelt said:
Does anyone know who make the Barone necks?

Phil Barone.

BariMelt

· #13 · Aug 6, 2007

True, I wonder if Phil would mind telling us???? (Hint, hint.)

Mark R

Discussion Starter · #14 · Aug 6, 2007

82Z neck view.....of the day

I've decided for now to stick with the G1 neck...I really like the way it plays with the horn....it is just obvious to me Yamaha put a great deal of work into the design of the 82Z...to be played with the G1 neck....As maybe mentioned before...some was sarcasm and poking fun...but I do own at present a Barone Copper neck (tenon is too tight to chance trying to force fit it), a Selmer SterlingPlus thinwall, an Oleg, P. Mauriat stock and also P. Mauriat Super Jazz VI and finally the B&S Codera neck.

When I got the 82Z a couple of days ago I tried all the various necks. Bottom line the G1 is the best performer in my opinion...with the largest amount of flexibility too....it is rich and smooth but really takes on that extra edge and bite...when pushed. If I wanted more vintage I am fortunate enough to own the P Mauriat PMXT-66R that to me is like a great old Conn with better ergonomics and intonation.

Since most of my work is with a fun Top40, soul/funk cover band...we do lots of Earth Wind Fire...Tower Of Power.. Chicago...etc....I want a good modern sound and the 82Z is really filling the ticket well. It is honestly a better horn with an excellent fat sound and great vibrations.....and it plays so easy....very well designed horn to me.

Okay...all that to say I'm happy enough after playing gigs all weekend with the 82Z to say the best neck for this horn is the one it came with the G1.....I would like to try a solid silver Yamaha neck on it one day in the future though.

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gary

· #15 · Aug 6, 2007

Hey - ya "gotta love the one you're with".

Thanks for the feedback. You realise, of course, you've just dashed the hopes of countless GAS junkies.

HonkBopSax

· #16 · Aug 6, 2007

I always wanted to try an unlacquered Z tenor but have never had the chance. Ahh well, maybe one day!

jazzhart

· #17 · Aug 15, 2007

saxxsymbol said:
i have a peter ponzol neck i use on mine when i want a darker, more vintage sound. i use the G 1 for more contemporary music. both have excellent intonation and response just a different sound. the ponzol reduces the higher harmonics in the tone and emphasizes the lower harmonics.

I have the same setup with my Z. The Ponzol really fixed any intonation problems and gives me a fairly dark, fat sound. The G1,(which Yamaha replaced for me) gives me the edge and punch. A big change happened when I put a Ponzol ML 110 mouthpiece on the Ponzol neck. I was estatic with the sound and response. It really works for me and I'm a happy camper!

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