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I tried doing a search but wasn't having any luck. Anyone here using one for sax recording? I just ordered an Audient ID22 interface, and everyone is saying "get a ribbon mic" to record sax. For now, I have an AKG C214 condenser and am borrowing a Royer R122 ($$$$) ribbon mic, but I won't be able to keep that one indefinitely. I've read (and heard clips) about the NoHype ribbon mics and they sound good, especially considering I can get one with shipping at just over $200...

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I tried doing a search but wasn't having any luck. Anyone here using one for sax recording? I just ordered an Audient ID22 interface, and everyone is saying "get a ribbon mic" to record sax. For now, I have an AKG C214 condenser and am borrowing a Royer R122 ($$$$) ribbon mic, but I won't be able to keep that one indefinitely. I've read (and heard clips) about the NoHype ribbon mics and they sound good, especially considering I can get one with shipping at just over $200...

Any experience or advice?
Had one before and it was pretty good for the price. Edit: it was pretty good, period. It didn't quite have the same tonal clarity as my R122 and Coles 4038 and I ended up selling it (also sold the R122, which I partially regret up to now). Again, for the price you pay (1/4 of what you would pay for a used R122/Coles 4038), it's a great buy. Also, JP provides excellent customer service.
 

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Had one before and it was pretty good for the price. Edit: it was pretty good, period. It didn't quite have the same tonal clarity as my R122 and Coles 4038 and I ended up selling it (also sold the R122, which I partially regret up to now). Again, for the price you pay (1/4 of what you would pay for a used R122/Coles 4038), it's a great buy. Also, JP provides excellent customer service.
Thanks. My main concern is that I've always read that ribbon mics (good ones) aren't cheap, so seeing one with good reviews for $200 has been interesting. Other option I was looking at is the SE Electronics Voodoo ($399)
 

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Thanks. My main concern is that I've always read that ribbon mics (good ones) aren't cheap, so seeing one with good reviews for $200 has been interesting. Other option I was looking at is the SE Electronics Voodoo ($399)
You can get a used R101 for around $400 (I also had one of those before) but they're not as good on horns (more suitable for strings). I don't have any experience with the Voodoo. I think if you're going to use a ribbon to mic your horn, you can't do any better than a Coles 4038 (mine was a slightly used one that I got for $800) with the R121 and R122 also ranking up there (those go for at least $900 or so used). The advantage of the R122 is that you get to ramp up the gain since it's phantom-powered (which is unique for a ribbon mic) and ribbons need a lot of gain.

You can't go wrong with the No-Hype either -- you just get a bit more refinement/clarity with the more expensive mics. I'd like to clarify that I've only had the LRM-2 and not the LRM-V, which just came out last month.
 

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You can get a used R101 for around $400 (I also had one of those before) but they're not as good on horns (more suitable for strings). I don't have any experience with the Voodoo. I think if you're going to use a ribbon to mic your horn, you can't do any better than a Coles 4038 (mine was a slightly used one that I got for $800) with the R121 and R122 also ranking up there (those go for at least $900 or so used). The advantage of the R122 is that you get to ramp up the gain since it's phantom-powered (which is unique for a ribbon mic) and ribbons need a lot of gain.

You can't go wrong with the No-Hype either -- you just get a bit more refinement/clarity with the more expensive mics. I'd like to clarify that I've only had the LRM-2 and not the LRM-V, which just came out last month.
Thanks... I messaged NoHype and he did suggest the LRM-V... I didn't even know there was something newer than the 2 out. For the money, I am pretty sure I won't be able to do better unless I decide to save up and spend around $1k.
 

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Royer has a newer ribbon mic (R10) for around $500. I use a pair of them for piano and they sound excellent. Have not tried recording sax with them as my piano is at home and I play and record my saxes in my studio a few miles away.
 

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Royer has a newer ribbon mic (R10) for around $500. I use a pair of them for piano and they sound excellent. Have not tried recording sax with them as my piano is at home and I play and record my saxes in my studio a few miles away.
Thanks, I have seen the R10 name thrown around but haven't investigated. I will check it out, thanks.
 

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Thanks. My main concern is that I've always read that ribbon mics (good ones) aren't cheap, so seeing one with good reviews for $200 has been interesting. Other option I was looking at is the SE Electronics Voodoo ($399)
Did you ever end up getting one of these (i.e., either the LRM-2 or the Voodoo VR1)? If so, what did you think of it?
 

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Did you ever end up getting one of these (i.e., either the LRM-2 or the Voodoo VR1)? If so, what did you think of it?
Did not. I've been "borrowing" a Royer ribbon mic from the studio I record in sometimes and ended up buying an AKG C214 condenser that I use 99.9% of the time. It feels like the Royer recordings come out a lot less "lively" than the condenser and I'd really have to EQ it to hell to get it to sound how I'd like it to.
 

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Mmichel – these are really good mics. The guy who makes them REALLY knows what he's doing, and they compete with very nice ribbon mics that are much more expensive. I wouldn't hesitate to get one, particularly for the money. He sources a lot of the parts from Asia, I'm pretty sure, but he puts everything together himself in Belgium, and he's the real deal. He consults for companies who make much more expensive mics.

I'm personally more drawn to the more "vintage-sounding" LRM V. It seems modeled generally after the old-school long-ribbon RCA designs, and I love those on saxophone in particular. People who own the LRM-2B seem to generally love them, though, seems to maybe be more "modern."

The Samar Audio company has a really interesting and affordable ribbon, too. A bit more than the NoHype, but Samar typically makes pretty top-shelf stuff. Likewise, Cascade has been putting out good ribbons for not much money for a long time (I've heard people get great results out of the Fathead and Vin-Jet models).

It's a bit of a misconception that ribbons have to be expensive. I do love the AEA mics, which are essentially recreations of the old RCAs, but the technology in a ribbon mic is much less involved than in a good condenser. They can be made very well with less infrastructure.
 

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Mmichel – these are really good mics. The guy who makes them REALLY knows what he's doing, and they compete with very nice ribbon mics that are much more expensive. I wouldn't hesitate to get one, particularly for the money. He sources a lot of the parts from Asia, I'm pretty sure, but he puts everything together himself in Belgium, and he's the real deal. He consults for companies who make much more expensive mics.

I'm personally more drawn to the more "vintage-sounding" LRM V. It seems modeled generally after the old-school long-ribbon RCA designs, and I love those on saxophone in particular. People who own the LRM-2B seem to generally love them, though, seems to maybe be more "modern."

The Samar Audio company has a really interesting and affordable ribbon, too. A bit more than the NoHype, but Samar typically makes pretty top-shelf stuff. Likewise, Cascade has been putting out good ribbons for not much money for a long time (I've heard people get great results out of the Fathead and Vin-Jet models).

It's a bit of a misconception that ribbons have to be expensive. I do love the AEA mics, which are essentially recreations of the old RCAs, but the technology in a ribbon mic is much less involved than in a good condenser. They can be made very well with less infrastructure.
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Thanks. Could you describe their character compared to other ribbons?

I'm mainly an LDC guy, but I've been thinking about adding a ribbon mic for something different. I'd like something with a smoother/less harsh top end, but some of the popular ribbons, like the Cascade Fathead, sound too muted to me.

One of the things that interested me about the sE VR1 is that it seems to preserve more of the top end compared to traditional ribbons. I think I'd be most interested in something vaguely in that direction, with a sound somewhere between a warm LDC and a traditional ribbon.
 

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I am using a RODE NT-2 which is around $350 and its warm and responsive plus you can change the recording positions of the microphone field. If I were to do it again I would go for AKG but this one is very good.
 
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@mmichel – I haven't used all the ribbons I'd like to personally, so a lot of my perspective is from hearing shootouts and doing an unnecessarily gratuitous amount of geeky research. If I get my way, I'll be able to shoot out ALL these interesting mics in the reasonably near future (NoHype, AEA, Samar, Cascade, etc). But from what I understand, I think the LRM-V can be considered similar to the RCA 44 (or the modern equivalents like AEA 440 or R84): full-frequency but with a bit of a subdued top-end. The LRM-2B sounds like it's more linear, so a bit more top end without getting harsh, and that might be what you want.

I'm typically an LDC guy too, and I'm well-covered in that department, so I like a "vintagey" ribbon sound along the lines of the RCA 44. But all these long-ribbon mics take EQ extremely well, too, so you should be able to dial in a sound you like on any well-made ribbon mic without too much trouble.
 

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I am using a RODE NT-2 which is around $350 and its warm and responsive plus you can change the recording positions of the microphone field. If I were to do it again I would go for AKG but this one is very good.
Thanks, but as I implied above, I've already got a couple of LDCs I'm happy with. I'm interested in trying a good ribbon mic.
 

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@mmichel – I haven't used all the ribbons I'd like to personally, so a lot of my perspective is from hearing shootouts and doing an unnecessarily gratuitous amount of geeky research. If I get my way, I'll be able to shoot out ALL these interesting mics in the reasonably near future (NoHype, AEA, Samar, Cascade, etc). But from what I understand, I think the LRM-V can be considered similar to the RCA 44 (or the modern equivalents like AEA 440 or R84): full-frequency but with a bit of a subdued top-end. The LRM-2B sounds like it's more linear, so a bit more top end without getting harsh, and that might be what you want.

I'm typically an LDC guy too, and I'm well-covered in that department, so I like a "vintagey" ribbon sound along the lines of the RCA 44. But all these long-ribbon mics take EQ extremely well, too, so you should be able to dial in a sound you like on any well-made ribbon mic without too much trouble.
Thanks. I was hoping that you (or @buddy lee, or someone else with tonal preferences broadly similar to my own) had tried one.

I think I'll go ahead and order an LRM-2B. They're well-reviewed and, as you said above, seem to be broadly in the direction I'm looking for. They are are also remarkably inexpensive, so it won't be too big of a loss if the experiment doesn't work out.
 

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Awesome! I look forward to hearing your results. I think I'm probably gonna own one of each before too long. JP Gerard REALLY knows his stuff, and they're just too damn affordable.

All the shootouts I've heard between his LRM mics and high-end AEAs or RCAs have been very impressive indeed.
 

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His Royer 121 copy (grill u-mod) is excellent, and although I own (and like) an SE VR2 if I had to buy now I’d by an OPR.
I know an engineer who sold his vintage C12 in favour of the OPR copy too. Excellent mics at an excellent price
 
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