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Nickel Silver Gold Lacquer Tenor

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So, after everyones responses to my previous postings, I think I have finally setteled on the NS Tenor. I have heard everyone say, or a lot say that they are overly bright and really dont have a lot of depth or warmth to their sound. How true is this? I am coming off of a Mark VI that I have played for the past 15 yrs.. My VI is pretty bright, which I DONT like sometimes.. How will this compare in terms of brightness with MARK VI or a Yamaha 82 ZU that I was originally going to purchase? I dont mind a little bright, but is it going to have lazer or buzz saw qualities or be harsh sounding? I know a lot depends on my mouthpiece and reed combo and setup, but do these horns have warmth to them as well? I read most of the other postings in terms of which models are dark and which are bright. Some of you even listed the order of them. Is this Keilwerth still going to have a lot of the other same Keilwerth characteristics that MANY of you KNOW and LOVE? I am going to be using this for Contemporary, Funk, R and B Setup and Pop setup. I wont be playing straight ahead jazz. When this horn is pushes will it still maintain its beautiful richness and full bottom end? Thanks for all the replies everyone
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Read this from saxforte. He addresses what nickel siver does to the keilwerth sound!! http://saxforte.com/saxophones/materials_and_finishes/materials_and_finishes.html. I have 2 SX-90 brass tenors in my household. My daughter's lacquer and my black nickel. We love em. Never tried a R model let alone a nickel siver one.
I own a NS Tenor and a lacquer Alto. I don't think the NS is bright at all. When I play it with my HR Berg, its a very dark sound, yet has lots of punch to it. When I play it with my Guardala King, it brightens it up some, but not much, is very free blowing, and has a broad dynamic range. My King is pretty much the only piece I use on it now. I really like that setup for me. All of this talk about the NS being too bright has really kind of concerened me. I played a big band gig last night, and I asked my fellow sax players if I sound too bright for the section. The reply was "not at all," and these guys are honest.

As a matter of fact, I think my brass lacquer JK alto is brighter sounding than my NS tenor. I really love the sound of both horns though.

But hey, you must not take my word on it, you have to try it out. Don't assume whats right for everyone else is going to be the right choice for you.
FunkyHorn626 said:
So, after everyones responses to my previous postings, I think I have finally setteled on the NS Tenor. I have heard everyone say, or a lot say that they are overly bright and really dont have a lot of depth or warmth to their sound. How true is this?
Not true at all.
The nickel silver horns have a lot of power to them, not bright, just gutsy. The brightness of the sound will depend much more on your mouthpiece/reed combination.

Of course, if you've spent the last fifteen years on a Mark VI, then chances are you aren't going to like the sound or feel of the Keilwerth horns. But, really the only way to know is to play one and see what you think.
I had a NS tenor last year (should not have sold it!). I would not say that it was bright but certainly powerful! More free blowing than SX90 I recently sold. That could have been due to the setup but was a very nice horn that managed to cover the R&B/Funk stuff I typically play.
I'm in the process of pulling together the $$ for a Shadow which should be a good compliment to my Couf.
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