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Too bad the neck is missing, =)
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Vintage-C-G-...7QQihZ017QQcategoryZ10184QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Its a late chu berry i think. How much is chu berry worth any one knows?
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Well seeing as this one is high pitched and without a neck - not a lot. USD 200?
I'm thinking more like $10.00 - by a restaurant that wants a wall-hanger. Paying $200.00 for that piece of useless metal would be silly.

A LOW PITCH playable Chu tenor is worth a lot more. DAVE
docformat said:
Well seeing as this one is high pitched and without a neck - not a lot. USD 200?
Dave Dolson said:
I'm thinking more like $10.00
Wow, is the dollar taking a beating or what?

I know a punk rock band that would pay $5 for it. I don't know what they'll do with it. I was afraid to ask.
Geez 10 bux, thats a bit low hehehe

I dont know anything about high pitch/low pitch. Does the high pitch one sounds higher than the other one?
Just by a few megahertz...
mjs: You'd regret the $10.00 after you took possession of a hi-pitch saxophone. Me thinks you need to read around SOTW and learn about how vintage saxophones may be pitched. THEN come back and review your last post. DAVE
The only way I would consider a HP sax is if I needed the case or mouthpiece. mjs - basically low pitch is A=440 whereas HP is A=467. The tenor in question would be closer to a B tenor than to a Bb.
Dave Dolson said:
mjs: You'd regret the $10.00 after you took possession of a hi-pitch saxophone. Me thinks you need to read around SOTW and learn about how vintage saxophones may be pitched. THEN come back and review your last post. DAVE
I am so green with vintage sax Dave, thanks for the explanation Bruce. Yeah its not worth the money, cant really play in the band.

But tell me 1 thing tho...as I did try to search but cant find it, why they made this instrument at the first place if it turns out to be useless????
mjs: I have not used the search button in quite a while, mainly because I'm here so much and read most of the threads. I'll admit that for a new poster to try to catch up may be difficult. Still, the subject of "HIGH PITCH" and "LOW PITCH" (also known as HP and LP) have been discussed and explained in detail many times. I'm guessing that entering those words in the search feature would turn up a lot of info.

But to directly answer your question, the era of HP and LP instruments was an era before standardized pitch was introduced to the world. Many manufacturers thus marked their products to differentiate between the two pitches. This was done even after the pitch was standardized at LP (A=440) and began to disappear in the early 1930's, if my memory serves me correctly.

Others may want to correct that, but suffice to say that if you come across a HP instrument , know that you won't be able to play it in any ensemble where the others are at A-440. There is no conspiracy afoot here, just a mark of the times when the instrument was made. Hope that helps. DAVE
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If you were to put together a band and use all HP instruments you would be OK!
It might be worth it for someone to have parts for a LP conn of the same era? Or are the parts different sizes?
Jacob: Did you mean HP Conn?

Almost everyone is playing LP when they play vintage saxophones these days, regardless of whether or not their horns are marked LP or LOW PITCH. They'd know it if they had an HP horn and tried to play it in an ensemble.

I can't imagine any value in storing parts for an HP instrument - there are so few in service that there would be no long-term business benefit to that end. I don't know if individual rod lengths and keywork is all that different (from HP to LP) but I'll bet there are differences given that body tubes and tonehole placement is probably different.

Yes, one could have a band of all HP instruments, but that would play heck with piano tuners (assuming one had a piano in the band). DAVE
I got an idea. Howzabout all the LP squares have to wear very VERY tight underwear? Am I a geniu7s or wh\AT?/ dAVE??:) ;)
So, if LP is A=440Hz. What is A= ?Hz for HP?
If you were to put together a band and use all HP instruments you would be OK!
... if you were happy with the non-standard key change!
hakukani said:
So, if LP is A=440Hz. What is A= ?Hz for HP?
Who cares? ;) It's a simple matter of underwear tightening :) ;) As for the pianist, he should be playing electric (ie just a bit of knob twiddling), unless he's some kind of dopey dinosaur. ;) [HP A447, I think.]
Dave Dolson said:
Jacob: Did you mean HP Conn?

Almost everyone is playing LP when they play vintage saxophones these days, regardless of whether or not their horns are marked LP or LOW PITCH. They'd know it if they had an HP horn and tried to play it in an ensemble.

I can't imagine any value in storing parts for an HP instrument - there are so few in service that there would be no long-term business benefit to that end. I don't know if individual rod lengths and keywork is all that different (from HP to LP) but I'll bet there are differences given that body tubes and tonehole placement is probably different.

Yes, one could have a band of all HP instruments, but that would play heck with piano tuners (assuming one had a piano in the band). DAVE
Dave..I meant that I was wondering if the parts for LP and HP horns were interchangeable. If they are, then someone with a LP conn needing parts would value a HP horn which they'd get for absolutely nothing, than buying a more expensive LP horn for parts.
hakukani said:
So, if LP is A=440Hz. What is A= ?Hz for HP?
About 467 or somewhere in there.
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