Really? That sounds great!!! What's the URL for mouthpiece heaven??
New Theo Wanne AMMA Tenor Mouthpiece
The new Theo Wanne AMMA Tenor Mouthpiece is now available for trial or sale. It seems like an innovative approach to a large chamber piece. Check it out at Mouthpiece Heaven. It is pricey, up there with a Johannes Gerber.
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The Wanne is not priced like a Gerber. The Wanne mouthpiece cost about 33% less and plays about 333% better.Mactenor said:The new Theo Wanne AMMA Tenor Mouthpiece is now available for trial or sale. It seems like an innovative approach to a large chamber piece. Check it out at Mouthpiece Heaven. It is pricey, up there with a Johannes Gerber.
waSax, how long have you been playing the AMMA? How long did you play the Gerber?
Here is the answer to your loaded question... retread.
Played a Gerber Jazz for about 1 year. Waiting to receive the AMMA. I've been playing one of Theo's Dukoff Hollywoods for about 6 months and it plays much better than my Gerber. It sounds like the AMMA design is based to some degree on the Dukoff Hollywood. Based on this is how I can say the Wanne plays 333% better than the Gerber and the cost difference is fact.
Played a Gerber Jazz for about 1 year. Waiting to receive the AMMA. I've been playing one of Theo's Dukoff Hollywoods for about 6 months and it plays much better than my Gerber. It sounds like the AMMA design is based to some degree on the Dukoff Hollywood. Based on this is how I can say the Wanne plays 333% better than the Gerber and the cost difference is fact.
How about if you play the Amma first before making such statements?waSax said:The Wanne mouthpiece cost about 33% less and plays about 333% better.
So far you did the opposite and as a consequence you lost credibility...waSax said:Yes Sir. Will do.
Is smack talking America's favorite pastime, or what?
If I am wrong, then I stand corrected, but I thought that Gerber mouthpieces were in the $800 - $900 range. The AMMA with mandatory Liberty Ligature is $800, now I realize that you do get a Ligature in the purchase. I am just thankful that legends like Theo Wanne are developing and offering new and innovative products. As with any manufacturing venture, R&D and quality assurance do not come cheap.waSax said:The Wanne is not priced like a Gerber. The Wanne mouthpiece cost about 33% less and plays about 333% better.
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Deductive reasoning.
Based on what I said in post #5, I believe my comments to be based on deductive reasoning and are credible to some extent. Per the advise from Giganova in post #6, I will wait to post any more information regarding the AMMA until after I have played it enough to make a true evaulation. Thanks for your advise and direction.rispoli said:So far you did the opposite and as a consequence you lost credibility...
$800 for a mouthpiece. It just seems like when you get up into those crazy prices that you're gonna get totally slammed in the face by the law of diminishing returns. I think once you hit about 350 you're no longer paying for playability or tone but more for......I don't really know.
The way I read Theo's website, its $650.00 including the lig. I don't really understand why he offers the lig seperately, however, since it appears that it will only fit the AMMA.:?
A friend of mine ordered one the other day. I'm interested to see how he likes it.
A friend of mine ordered one the other day. I'm interested to see how he likes it.
I believe the extra cost reflects both a lot of R&D and a lot of hand work needed to finish the piece, especially the large chamber. I seem to recall Phil Barone pointing out how much hand work is needed to make a real large chamber piece. (My apologies to Phil if I have misremembered his posts.)
ps The URL is http://www.theowanne.com/
ps The URL is http://www.theowanne.com/
The cap and lig are included in the $650.00:Bob M said:The way I read Theo's website, its $650.00 including the lig. I don't really understand why he offers the lig seperately, however, since it appears that it will only fit the AMMA.:?
A friend of mine ordered one the other day. I'm interested to see how he likes it.
"Every mouthpiece sold includes and is shipped with a Liberty Ligature and Reed Replacer Cap." See:
http://www.theowanne.com//catalog/p...id=28&osCsid=334308d7dcf3704f8c0195aa4b8e980c
And I was thinking that is was a little odd to sell the lig without the mouthpiece, too.....I don't see how it would work without the specially designed "ligature assembly". Maybe that's a "stand-alone" model he's selling apart from the mouthpiece?
I'm playing the Amma.
Hello all. I thought I'd chime in with my 2¢. I have been priviledged enough to receive a couple of the first Ammas from Theo. One is silver and one gold. I will post a complete review of the Amma after I have put it though the paces. Only today, I recorded it on a session. The engineer was complimentary right off the bat. When I prodded him about the sound quality he said, "I turned the EQ off." I'm very used to rolling off highs or adding bottom end in the studio. How cool it was to hear it sounds fat and full without any added EQ!
Theo's on to something here. The large bore pieces are a different animal in the manufacturing process as I understand it. Seems Theo is going for the type of piece that hasn't been available new for many, many years.
I wish him every success and look forward to offering a comprehensive review when ready.
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Hello all. I thought I'd chime in with my 2¢. I have been priviledged enough to receive a couple of the first Ammas from Theo. One is silver and one gold. I will post a complete review of the Amma after I have put it though the paces. Only today, I recorded it on a session. The engineer was complimentary right off the bat. When I prodded him about the sound quality he said, "I turned the EQ off." I'm very used to rolling off highs or adding bottom end in the studio. How cool it was to hear it sounds fat and full without any added EQ!
Theo's on to something here. The large bore pieces are a different animal in the manufacturing process as I understand it. Seems Theo is going for the type of piece that hasn't been available new for many, many years.
I wish him every success and look forward to offering a comprehensive review when ready.
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Forget the reviews. Tone means different things to different people, it's almost worthless trying to describe a sound with words.
Why doesn't someone post extremely detailed pictures of the bore, chamber, facing, table and window. Show some pictures of how the reed matches up with the side rails and tip as well.
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Why doesn't someone post extremely detailed pictures of the bore, chamber, facing, table and window. Show some pictures of how the reed matches up with the side rails and tip as well.
Skip,
Are you a Link player? All the discussion about Amma seems to hinge around the large chamber and when I think large chamber I think Otto Link, (more specifically, a NY Link).....while it's true what Heath said about tone meaning different things to different people, it would help to know what kind of mouthpiece and chamber you're using, (and others when they get their pieces and check back with us), to give us an idea of whether the Amma might work for us.......daryl
Are you a Link player? All the discussion about Amma seems to hinge around the large chamber and when I think large chamber I think Otto Link, (more specifically, a NY Link).....while it's true what Heath said about tone meaning different things to different people, it would help to know what kind of mouthpiece and chamber you're using, (and others when they get their pieces and check back with us), to give us an idea of whether the Amma might work for us.......daryl
You can LOOK at pictures of mouthpieces all day but you won't know how they PLAY until you get them on your horn. I, too, thought I knew how to judge a mouthpiece by its appearance until I bought and played a Lamberson J8. That was my moment of realization that sometimes, just sometimes, there is magic happening that transcends appearances.
OTOH, if you cannot judge a book by its cover, why is the cover there?
OTOH, if you cannot judge a book by its cover, why is the cover there?
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