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Announcing the new line of Morgan Baritone Saxophone Mouthpieces. Production has started on these and they are rolling out the door to customers. The advertising is not quite ready yet for the Morgan website, but they are available to order by phone from the Morgan Company or online from www.junkdude.com. They should be available on the Morgan Website early June.

Players who have had custom baritone pieces made by Erik Greiffenhagen will attest that Erik is a genius mouthpiece designer and the custom baritone pieces he has made from various blanks are among the best baritone mouthpieces ever made.

The Morgan Company is now offering these "custom" pieces using our own Erik designed blanks. All mouthpieces are hand-crafted inside and out by Erik G, Brian Powell and John MacQueen…three of the most experienced mouthpiece craftsmen on the planet…nearly 100 years combined experience! The new models that will be available in June of 2019 are:

Classical Model. A traditional Classical mouthpiece with a large round chamber and no baffle.

Florida Model. Inspired by 1960s Slant Signature Otto Links.

Indiana Model. Inspired by Early Babbitt TENOR Links…similar chamber as the Florida but with a flat or "clam-shell" baffle.

Double Chamber Bari/Bass Model. A unique piece with a very large chamber and rollover baffle. Works great with vintage American baritone and BASS saxophones.

Of course, we continue to make the GM Model Baritone mouthpiece using the original antique M.C. Gregory / Gale Mold used by the Gregory / Gale Company in the 1930s - 1960s.

We are currently making these as they are ordered so plan on 2-3 weeks for delivery. Eventually, we will have stock on hand for immediate delivery, but probably not for a few months. You can order these and other Morgan mouthpieces at www.morganmouthpieces.com or www.junkdude.com
 

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Is the "GM" model also "hand crafted inside and out by Erik G, Brian Powell and John Macqueen"?
Yes, The GM Baritone requires the most hand work of any of the Morgan mouthpieces. The antique mold does about 30% of the work and then the rest is done by hand. So far, Erik is the only one that has made the GM Baritone Model mouthpieces. You can see more of the process of this piece on this blog:

https://www.morganmouthpieces.com/blogs/news/hacked-preview-of-our-new-baritone-saxophone-mouthpiece

The antique molds give the general shape of the mouthpiece, but even the beak needs to be shaped. Of course, the interior chamber, baffle, rails, facing, tip, etc are all also shaped by hand. The mold had not been used for probably 60+ years. Few people would have known how to use this mold. Thanks to Erik G who learned from Ralph Morgan, we knew exactly what to do with it. We knew the rubber formula to use, we knew the press temps and pressure, we knew the curing temps and times and of course how to turn that mouthpiece shaped object into a great playing mouthpiece. Erik nailed it on the first try and is playing on the first piece that came from this mold and we have been in production since with them.
 

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saxtek sounds great on this mouthpiece. Has anyone else tried the GM? I am particularly interested in the .105" or .110" tip opening.
We actually have some 8* (.105) GM Baritones in stock right now. If you are curious, we do offer a 10-day trial period. If you don't like it, send it back for a refund minus the shipping costs. Initial shipping cost to you is free. If you return it, we need to charge a restocking fee to recover our initial restocking fee. We have both the regular shank and the XL shank in stock. If you are on a modern bari or a Selmer Paris, we recommend the regular shank. If you are on a vintage American bari, then we typically recommend the XL.

These are fantastic mouthpieces and really nothing else like them on the market. Making a mouthpiece from one of these antique molds is definitely a lost art. The amount of knowledge, time and craftsmanship that goes into each piece is insane. The Morgan Company is blessed with three of the best and most experienced craftsmen on the planet. I would guess few others on the planet would have the knowledge, skill, and willingness to bring this piece to the market. These are every bit as good as the ones made by the M.C. Gregory Company in the 1940s - 1960s and we are offering them with a lot more openings than they were back then.

They can be ordered from www.morganmouthpieces.com or www.junkdude.com
 

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What are the inside diameters, for those shank bores?
The inside of the shank bores of the XL and regular shanks are essentially the same...around 17.80mm. The difference is the XL shank is longer which allows the mouthpiece to sit more securely on the cork of a lot of vintage baritones. The regular shank of the GM tunes pretty far out on the neck of vintage baritones...the XL allows it to sit around mid-cork. In August, we will also be offering the XL shank on the Classical, Florida and Indiana model baritones. These will work well for especially stubborn vintage baritones as well as bass saxes.
 

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Thanks. I assume this issue wouldn't be unique to Morgan mouthpieces, so for a bari that apparently doesn't have this problem, one would get the regular. I'm sure it isn't a myth, but for the present purposes mine don't seem so "vintage", though they're about as old as I am, and I'm "vintage."
Right! This is not unique to the Morgan mouthpieces. Many vintage American baritone saxophones and most basses are picky with mouthpieces and intonation can be a problem. Many modern mouthpieces have intonation issues with vintage baritones and bass saxes. As a result, those that play vintage baritones and basses have a difficult time finding a mouthpiece that gives them both the tone they like and good intonation. The Morgan Company makes all of our baritone models in two versions so if you like the tone, then one or the other version will most likely give you good intonation. As far as I know, we are the only company that does this.

For the most part, if you are on any Selmer Paris (post 1930s) or any modern (post 1970) baritone, then the regular shank version is most likely what you want. If you are on a vintage American baritone or bass, then the XL shank version is most likely the best choice.
 

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Thank you, a casual search fails me on Committee III but as Martin saxes ended in 71, I guess this may be before 1970? My impression from my own baris is that my '50s King may not be all that vintage, in this particular matter.
The regular shank Florida, Indiana, and Classical Models should work well with Martins, Kings, Conns, etc. The chambers are large enough that intonation on most vintage American baritones from the 1920s - 1970s will be fine. If you are looking for a bass mouthpiece or you have a really old baritone...pre 1920, then the XL shank would probably be the right option.

The GM Model does not have as large a chamber, so if you are on a Selmer Paris or most any modern horn, the regular shank should work well. However on most any vintage American baritone from the 1920s - 1970s, the XL shank would probably be best. We would not recommed this model for bass saxophones without doing additional custom work...but then it is really no longer the GM Model.

Of course, we are always happy to assist with a mouthpiece selection. Feel free to email any questions to [email protected]
 

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https://www.morganmouthpieces.com/blogs/news/hacked-preview-of-our-new-baritone-saxophone-mouthpiece

Wow!!!! It is amazing to me that the mold still exists, and is in fine condition, that you were able to locate it and purchase it and produce new mouthpieces with it. Maybe you could share some details about how you acquired this historic relic.
All the following information relates only to the GM Model Baritone...not the new Classical, Florida or Indiana Baritone Models.

We will put together a way too long article about this on the website blog this week or next, but here's the short version...

Late 1960s: M.C. Gregory / Gale went out of business.

Late 1960s: Charles Bay purchased the assets including the molds but never put the molds into production.

1980: Ralph Morgan started the Morgan Mouthpiece Company to bring back the lost art/science of handcrafted mouthpieces.

Late 1980s: Gerry Mulligan broke his Gale mouthpiece and nearly retired because of it. Fortunately, it was repaired for him and he continued playing.

1980s: Gerry Mulligan begged Charles Bay to make a new mouthpiece from the old mold, but Charles could not do it.

1980s-2000s: Ralph Morgan knew how to use the molds and had always wanted to purchase them from Charles Bay, but Charles would not sell.

2007: Ralph Morgan passed away.

2016-2018: Charles Bay may have passed away…there is some debate on this.

Fall 2017: An antique dealer purchased some box lots from the "Charles Bay Estate" auction…which may have actually been a delinquent storage unit auction.

October 2017: The Antique dealer listed "Mouthpiece Shaping Tools" on eBay.

October 2017: An astute Morgan customer realized the Gregory molds were on eBay and alerted Erik Greiffenhagen of Morgan Company.

October 2017: The Morgan Company purchased 8 molds from eBay including the baritone mold.

Winter 2017/2018: The Morgan Company put the probably 70+ year old Gregory Baritone Mold into production again.

Spring 2018: The Morgan Company started selling the new Gregory Mold (GM) Model Baritone Saxophone Mouthpiece.

Fall 2019 (hopfully): The Morgan Company will start production on the GM Altos and GM Tenors Models.

So, with some crazy luck and a lifetime of knowledge and skill, we will revive this once great line of mouthpieces…we should have the 16, 18 and 20 core alto and tenor mouthpieces available late this year.
 
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