[sparrowstrike]

Hi all,
I just got moved to Bari in my school's jazz band (collegiate level, but an all-come group). I am sharing the bari with a couple of players in other bands on campus, but we each have our own mouthpiece. Problem is, my mouthpiece doesn't have a ligature and the ligature that is being shared among the others is too big for my mouthpiece. My mouthpiece is a brilhart special ebolin (i know its not a great mouth piece, but it fit my budget the timeline I needed it on and it works). For reference, on alto, I use a Bois ligature with a c*, a light rovner with my meyer 6, and I don't like the dark rovners. Any recommendations for a bari ligature that won't break the bank and will fit on a brilhart special ebolin?
Thank you in advance!

 

[cymru97]

Most music departments have a box of ligatures, lyres, reed holders, and other random crap abandoned by students, I would ask your director or the person in charge of instrument check outs if such a thing exists and just look through it for a standard two-screw lig that fits.

I've always preferred standard ligs and use one on my vintage Tonalin.

 

[lhoffman]

If I remember correctly, a standard tenor hard rubber ligature fits the bari Ebolin. Something like this.

 

[sparrowstrike]

Quick update: I really appreciate the fast responses! I asked the director about other ligatures around the building and it doesn’t appear that there are any for a bari. The ligature we have been passing back and forth fits a Meyer 5 bari mp, but looks like the one ihoffman linked and has no markings on it. I’m going to buy the one ihoffman linked and if it doesn’t fit return it. I’d really like to order a couple of options, so that I have the best chance of something that fits before next rehearsal. Thanks again for the help. I’m really excited to be back playing bari. I included pictures of the mp in question for reference.

 

[lostcircuits]

There isn't really much of a point going fancy on a Ebolin Special, but any music store should have some oversize ligatures for $10.- to 15.- (kind of a rip off). The bari Ebolin has quite a girth so most tenor ligs won't fit but here is one that might and it is cheap: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZN6TJ6Q/ref=dp_cr_wdg_tit_rfb

BTW, the Vandoren M|O ( LC59AP ) will not fit that mouthpiece, it is too big but that's the one often recommended by phone sales people.

 

[cymru97]

I want to say Ihoffman is correct, I think the lig I use on the Tonalin is a tenor hard rubber-sized lig. Any tenor players in your band you could ask about test fitting a ligature?

 

[sparrowstrike]

The closest music store is going through an owner change over so their inventory is kind of funky right now. I’d have to make a pretty good trip to get to another store, so I’m kind of stuck online shopping. I’m planning on spending some time in the practice rooms with my alto tomorrow, so I’ll try and snag one of the tenors while I’m there for a test fit. Thank you again for the help!

 

[cymru97]

The goofy oddball solution is to take your mouthpiece to an auto parts or hardware store and ask them to show you the hose clamps. A unique solution that has worked for quite a few folks around here! You just need a penny or dime to tighten it up. Should be about $1.25 like this one at Home Depot.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-3-4-in-1-3-4-in-Stainless-Steel-Hose-Clamp-6720595/202309386

 

[nigeld]

A Rovner 3R (HR Baritone) ligature fits my Ebolin Special.
But mine is an older model than yours.

 

[turf3]

Don't underrate the Brilhart Ebolins. Not expensive, but they're far better than you would expect for the price.

Why don't you go to the Rovner website and see if they have it listed? Worst case, give them a call and ask what size. Short term you can use a couple of rubber bands.

 

[lostcircuits]

Don't underrate the Brilhart Ebolins. Not expensive, but they're far better than you would expect for the price.

Why don't you go to the Rovner website and see if they have it listed? Worst case, give them a call and ask what size. Short term you can use a couple of rubber bands.

According to the OP, it's the "Special" which supposedly has a #2 tip opening and the one I have seems to conform to that info. Like you said, they are not bad but it's a matter of time until OP wants to upgrade anyway.

 

[click]

Quick update: I really appreciate the fast responses! I asked the director about other ligatures around the building and it doesn't appear that there are any for a bari. The ligature we have been passing back and forth fits a Meyer 5 bari mp, but looks like the one ihoffman linked and has no markings on it. I'm going to buy the one ihoffman linked and if it doesn't fit return it. I'd really like to order a couple of options, so that I have the best chance of something that fits before next rehearsal. Thanks again for the help. I'm really excited to be back playing bari. I included pictures of the mp in question for reference.

I had a lot of trouble fitting a lig to my bari ebolin.

I chose this one, which works great, and is flexible enough to fit differing pieces.

https://www.prowinds.com/product/52...MI3pex0MmU5wIVgsDACh1miAgZEAQYAiABEgKukfD_BwE

Rovner Platinum Saxophone Ligatures

$48.95

 

[cymru97]

I played my Tonalin this weekend and swapped around a couple ligatures for HR tenor mouthpieces and the two I had on hand worked just fine. They are both older ligatures, but I doubt that makes much difference. I'll try and remember to try a few others I've got kicking around.

 

[chknbon]

Sparrowstrike, you have a PM.

 

[Reet McVouty]

The goofy oddball solution is to take your mouthpiece to an auto parts or hardware store and ask them to show you the hose clamps. A unique solution that has worked for quite a few folks around here! You just need a penny or dime to tighten it up. Should be about $1.25 like this one at Home Depot.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-3-4-in-1-3-4-in-Stainless-Steel-Hose-Clamp-6720595/202309386

NO to this! Those slots on a hose clamp can and will cut into the hard rubber. One of the ligatures on the Amazon site will work. And they're cheap.

 

[cymru97]

NO to this! Those slots on a hose clamp can and will cut into the hard rubber. One of the ligatures on the Amazon site will work. And they're cheap.

I suppose they could, but it's not done it to me. When it happened to you was the hose clamp poorly finished with burrs or something?

 

[Reet McVouty]

I suppose they could, but it's not done it to me. When it happened to you was the hose clamp poorly finished with burrs or something?

No, I've never used a hose clamp. I have a box full of ligatures that I've somehow accumulated over the years, they're mostly the old school 2 screw brass style. Those slots in a hose clamp are not only to thread through the screw to tighten it, but also to grip (preferably a hose) so that the clamp doesn't slip. I've seen the marks left on radiator hoses and while that type of rubber is soft, there is nothing on a hard rubber mouthpiece to protect it either. I would say that if it's never happened to you you've been very lucky.

 

[claxton]

No, I've never used a hose clamp. I have a box full of ligatures that I've somehow accumulated over the years, they're mostly the old school 2 screw brass style. Those slots in a hose clamp are not only to thread through the screw to tighten it, but also to grip (preferably a hose) so that the clamp doesn't slip. I've seen the marks left on radiator hoses and while that type of rubber is soft, there is nothing on a hard rubber mouthpiece to protect it either. I would say that if it's never happened to you you've been very lucky.

I'm not a particularly lucky guy and I've used radiator hose clamps on HR pieces and they have left no marks at at all. I bought mine at Harbor Freight, these are similar, so you don't even need a screw driver or a coin: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Wideskal...wwtdm1h_wtuUTjTEvChm-19fEy5DtQtxoCVF8QAvD_BwE

 

[JoAnnPeeler]

I'm not a particularly lucky guy and I've used radiator hose clamps on HR pieces and they have left no marks at at all. I bought mine at Harbor Freight, these are similar, so you don't even need a screw driver or a coin

May I ask why you wanted to use a hose clamp? Surely it wasn't to save $5-6, right? Is it a guy thing?

 

[cymru97]

May I ask why you wanted to use a hose clamp? Surely it wasn't to save $5-6, right? Is it a guy thing?

Ha! It could be JoAnn! I think I first did it when I received a mouthpiece and didn't have a lig that would fit. I wanted to play it and had some hose clamps in the garage and figured it was worth a shot.

The thing about hose clamps is you can find them in ANY town and parts stores have better hours than music stores (that may or may not have the right size in stock).

I still prefer a good old two screw lig, but have no problem using a hose clamp.