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Hello,

New member here. Wondering if anyone can assist me with a re-lacquering question. My father wants me to sell his 1957 Selmer Mark VI Tenor Sax and I have it listed for sale. Two people have contacted me stating that it looks like it was re-lacquered. He is the original owner (purchased it in early 1958) and told me that it has never been re-lacquered as he was always told it would affect the tone and value of the instrument. I am attaching pictures.

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Jim

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The engraving above the logo looks a little suspicious. But honestly, it's really hard to tell from photos. If you could shoot a few photos of the engraving from different angles it would helpful.
 

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The engraving back then was much deeper than you’d see in later VI saxophones. This looks relacquered to me.

Unfortunately, some shops would do it regardless of what the owner would request because it was, “the trend.” I’ve seen a bunch of original owners sell their horns and swear that they’re original lacquer when, in fact, the horn was relacquered without their consent.
 

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I don't think that's a relaq. Beware of BS thrown at you by pickers who are looking for an angle to talk you down in price. Often they aren't even players, just people looking to buy your stuff cheap and then flip it for a profit. They will take advantage of your ignorance. It happened to me when I was a lot younger an a lot dumber.
 

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Here you go, and Brian at Getasax has great reputation as an honest and fair dealer:

https://www.getasax.com/is-my-vintage-selmer-saxophone-original-lacquer-or-relacquered/

Also, as a comparison, here is a link to an original lacquer horn from near your horn's vintage: https://www.pmwoodwind.com/instruments.cfm?c=1&instrumentid=5855&morepics=1

and from the same dealer/repair tech a link to a relacquered horn: https://www.pmwoodwind.com/instruments.cfm?c=1&instrumentid=5479&morepics=1

The difference in market price for an original lacquer vs a relacquered horn is significant enough that you should get some expert opinions. It might be best to go with a consignment from a reputable dealer if you really aren't sure of what you are selling.
 

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Thanks for all the comments. This does help and my father admits that all of the times he had it in for servicing, it's possible they did re-finish it and did not tell him. I have added a few more pictures.

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How can you not know if somethings been relac'ed? If it was that good condition, it didn't need a relac. If it needed a relac, you'd have to notice the before/after.
My father is 82 and he hasn't touched the horn in almost 30 years. He only remembers taking it in for servicing once in while before that and has no records, etc. I only asked a simple question as I had a new model Selmer and was not familiar with the older horns and his horns history. I have had it confirmed that it was redone at some point so at least I know what value it should be. Thanks for the "helpful" replies.
 
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