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New member here. Wondering if anyone can assist me with a re-lacquering question. My father wants me to sell his 1957 Selmer Mark VI Tenor Sax and I have it listed for sale. Two people have contacted me stating that it looks like it was re-lacquered. He is the original owner (purchased it in early 1958) and told me that it has never been re-lacquered as he was always told it would affect the tone and value of the instrument. I am attaching pictures.

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Jim

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The engraving above the logo looks a little suspicious. But honestly, it's really hard to tell from photos. If you could shoot a few photos of the engraving from different angles it would helpful.
 

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The engraving back then was much deeper than you’d see in later VI saxophones. This looks relacquered to me.

Unfortunately, some shops would do it regardless of what the owner would request because it was, “the trend.” I’ve seen a bunch of original owners sell their horns and swear that they’re original lacquer when, in fact, the horn was relacquered without their consent.
 

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The engraving back then was much deeper than you’d see in later VI saxophones.
I don’t know about USA engraved saxes, but here in the UK the engraving on early mk 6s is not as deep as it would be in the 60s versions.
The later ones being considerably deeper and more defined.
 

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When I zoom in on the pics of the engraving it looks like a relacquer. But pictures can be deceiving so I would want to see the horn in person in order to make a definite decision.
 

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I don't think that's a relaq. Beware of BS thrown at you by pickers who are looking for an angle to talk you down in price. Often they aren't even players, just people looking to buy your stuff cheap and then flip it for a profit. They will take advantage of your ignorance. It happened to me when I was a lot younger an a lot dumber.
 

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Here you go, and Brian at Getasax has great reputation as an honest and fair dealer:

https://www.getasax.com/is-my-vintage-selmer-saxophone-original-lacquer-or-relacquered/

Also, as a comparison, here is a link to an original lacquer horn from near your horn's vintage: https://www.pmwoodwind.com/instruments.cfm?c=1&instrumentid=5855&morepics=1

and from the same dealer/repair tech a link to a relacquered horn: https://www.pmwoodwind.com/instruments.cfm?c=1&instrumentid=5479&morepics=1

The difference in market price for an original lacquer vs a relacquered horn is significant enough that you should get some expert opinions. It might be best to go with a consignment from a reputable dealer if you really aren't sure of what you are selling.
 

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Overhauled/relacquer without a doubt. STILL, its a very valuable horn - just not $12,500.
 

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Greetings from a horn of same age - fantastic player!
 

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Overhauled/relacquer without a doubt.
Yeah, I can't see why anyone would even think this was original lacquer. They should think long and hard before offering such thoughts again.
 

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How can you not know if somethings been relac'ed? If it was that good condition, it didn't need a relac. If it needed a relac, you'd have to notice the before/after.
 

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Floral engraving looks just like mine, which is also relacquered. Doesn't make it a bad horn, just means it's not worth as much. Sorry.
 

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Yes. It looks like a relacquer, but If it is a player horn (there are lots of good relacquer player horns out there) he will find a new home at the right price. Good luck
 

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How can you not know if somethings been relac'ed? If it was that good condition, it didn't need a relac. If it needed a relac, you'd have to notice the before/after.
My father is 82 and he hasn't touched the horn in almost 30 years. He only remembers taking it in for servicing once in while before that and has no records, etc. I only asked a simple question as I had a new model Selmer and was not familiar with the older horns and his horns history. I have had it confirmed that it was redone at some point so at least I know what value it should be. Thanks for the "helpful" replies.
 
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