"Napule è" (Napoli is it) by Pino Daniele, for your ears.

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guidocreo

Discussion Starter · Jul 26, 2020

I'm working to check the pitch, step by step with little changes at my setup.

I play this tune using JJ DV Chicago 7* and a new Hartmann Fiberreed Carbon Classic.

One take without effects on the mixer:

Another take using reverber:

What is the best regard the pitch ? The answer to your ears.

Ciao and keep you safe.

T Rampone & Cazzani R1 Jazz - JJ DV Chicago 7* - Hartmann Fiberreed Carbon Classic M

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guidocreo

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jul 26, 2020

jmoen3 said:
The slight reverb really does add something to the sound! I preferred it, but you sound phenomenal on both! I think this style of song/backing leans more towards the Reverb as well.

Thanks, but I have the feeling that with the reverber the high register sounds more sharp!
Has that sense ?

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guidocreo

Discussion Starter · #6 · Jul 27, 2020

sax1st said:
Hi Guido. I think the tuning is much better overall. It doesn't sound to me like you're pinching in the upper register. Whatever changes you've made are certainly good ones. Bravissimo.

Thanks,

I have changed the mpc (JJ DV Chicago instead of JJ Giant) and the reed, a fresh new Fiberreed Carbon Classic instead of an abused old Fiberreed Carbon.

I love the Giant but I'm not able to control the pitch on the high register; if I play subtones the pitch is acceptable but if I push the pression it go very sharp.

I have to work much on it.

Ciao.

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guidocreo

Discussion Starter · #8 · Jul 27, 2020

whamptoncourt said:
You've asked about "pitch", but did you mean tone? Nice tone on both clips. I'll answer first regarding pitch. The first one seems to have all in tune but a few notes in the lower octave between G and C2 that are very slightly flat. In the second clip there are a few notes sharp in the second octave, but not consistently. I'm also hearing the same lower octave G to C2 a bit flat at times. The first is better, but the inconsistency makes me think that minor intonation discrepancies you're already correcting for somewhat, but not consistently.

The sound quality usually is better with some reverb as it blends out our tone, but many overdo this. What's desirable is to use an amount of reverb that matches the backing track so that you sound like you were all in the same environment when recording. That's almost impossible when playing a track through speakers and recording you live. It's best to have the backing track in its original form in your computer and to be recording your sax track separately alongside then mixing it and adding the appropriate amount of reverb, delay, etc. to match. A video is never going to give you a quality recording. Instead try to be making the best of your sound and the backing track. Using the microphone on a video camera, and being that far away from the microphone, is very undesirable as it picks up more of the sound of the room. Ideally you want to have a decent quality microphone not more than 1/2 meter away and pointed towards your G key, which definitely doesn't suit doing videos. A common problem is that people put the microphone facing in the bell, which is OK until you hit a low B or Bb which then "BOOMS".

There are a number of instruction videos on the web on how to make good quality home recordings. It doesn't take much more gear than you already have, and certainly doesn't require fancy editing programs. It's best to keep it simple. Best of luck.

I am really referring to the intonation that I am trying to work on after many have pointed out to me that I am quite sharp (and I realized it too).

Previously I used Logic Pro on Mac for recording but now I play with my equipment to play in small live (Electrovoice ND46 and Yamaha Stagepass) by connecting the mixer monitor output to a Focusrite iTrack One Pre card and this to my iPhone.
In this way I record directly with the camera program on the iPhone and, practically, it is as if I were playing live.
I find this mode more immediate and quick (no postproduction, tricks and deceptions: only one audio track is created) to share my practice on the web.

Thanks for your listening and for your advice.

Ciao and keep you safe.

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