[topbluenose]

hi, I'm currently using a yas-32 and I'm looking for a sound suited to 80's pop music. Like the sax solos in 'Ive had the time of my life' and 'When the going gets tough'

I have a budget of up to £200, and i am currently using a modified selmer mouthpiece for a smoother tone.

Should i be looking at metal mouthpieces with a small chamber for that unique pop sound?

Any suggestions on the set up i should be using?
x

 

[benjamin1979]

is that sanborn and brecker period?

 

[topbluenose]

to be honest i couldnt tell you

 

[EZ]

Dukoff D chamber

 

[Saxlicker]

I don't think you have to be too specific as most pop sax from that period seems extensively produced in the studio for the desired effect.
A smallish chamber and at least moderate baffle would be my guess for a lot of that stuff though. Oh! and probably metal as was fashionable.

Did someone already say duckoff D?

 

[MM]

Well, I'm sure Phil used his Meyer for "Just the Way You Are."

 

[bobsax]

The quality is terrible with new Duckoffs and I think they are very different then the old ones.
I had a an old D8 from the 80's that "disappeared" and when I ordered a new one it seemed smaller. The old ones were really big , almost a small metal tenor size.
I wonder if there is something else (for a little more$)that is like an older Duckoff.
Check out Nigel Hitchcock. He has a great modern/bop sound.
I asked him about his MP and this is what he said.
"I play a Freddie Gregory m'piece with Rico Royal 3's. Freddie copied my old
Dukoff M7 and opened it a bit, much warmer and controllable edge.
-- Nigel Hitchock

 

[J.Max]

The quality is terrible with new Duckoffs and I think they are very different then the old ones.
I had a an old D8 from the 80's that "disappeared" and when I ordered a new one it seemed smaller. The old ones were really big , almost a small metal tenor size.
I wonder if there is something else (for a little more$)that is like an older Duckoff.
Check out Nigel Hitchcock. He has a great modern/bop sound.
I asked him about his MP and this is what he said.
"I play a Freddie Gregory m'piece with Rico Royal 3's. Freddie copied my old
Dukoff M7 and opened it a bit, much warmer and controllable edge.
-- Nigel Hitchock

Guardala MBIIs are based on old Dukoffs, and I believe that PMS makes a similar model for alto. (Studio model? I can't remember.)

 

[gary]

You mean something thin and shrill? :twisted:

I would recommend you take a look at the Ponzol M1 or M2 mpcs. IMO you can get that bright contemporary sound and yet retain a deeper core sound than with some other mpcs with similar characteristics.

BTW:

Duckoff = :duckie:

Dukeoff = :boxing:

 

[MM]

I used to have several Saxworks mpcs that were CNC copies of Sanborn's D8. They are very playable pieces and fun to blow, but they weren't me so I sold them. If you can find one, a Saxworks would be worth trying. I let Ed Zentera check one out and he may be able to make you a copy. He mentioned its rails are raised from the baffle in a way that is different from a standard Dukoff D.

 

[trigger]

Ed made a dukoff sounding piece from a metal woodwind and co piece for me tip opening of .80 small chamber which works well and is reed friendly .I prefer my ARB custom as it's what i'm use to and prefer the duckbill in my mouth as the woodwind is quite steep .Would love to get a saxworks piece to try but never seen them less than $300

 

[Saxlicker]

:duckie: :cough:

 

[SuperDave]

The old ones were really big , almost a small metal tenor size.
.
-- Nigel Hitchock

I have a couple and they don't seem tenor like in size at all....and they are from the 80's

 

[bobsax]

I have a couple and they don't seem tenor like in size at all....and they are from the 80's

Hmmm ...I guess it depends on what you think of as big. It's also been a few years since I played the Dukoff and perhaps mouthpieces are like fish
If sombody wants to research this go right ahead.

What I remember is I played the Dukoff on alto and a metal Otto Link on tenor and they felt very similar switching between the two. I never liked the Beechler because it felt really small (and sounded small) compared to the Dukoff.

Dave
Are your old Dukoffs the same size as the new ones?
btw when I say 80's I mean early 80's. I think it was 1981 that I got my first Dukoff
...Duckoff whatever..

 

[SuperDave]

I think i got mine around 87 (I was over in Germany) I haven't tried a new one... so I can't say.
To make this really bad, I had some old mp's I'd trade and get about 5-10 bucks off the price, one of the ones I traded in for a few bucks off the Dukof
was a stuffy old mouthpiece that said 'Meyer Bros' on it, it didn't play as easy as my 80's Meyer....
ah life before Gore invented the internet and brought free porn to people who couldn't afford it

 

[SaxyAcoustician]

"Listen & Practice"

:disgust:

How about the brand of mouthpieces called "Listen & Practice"? A size 8 maybe (units are in hours/day)? It's the most dependable and consistent mouthpiece I have ever played on. Guaranteed to make everyone sound the way they want to sound.

Oh, the price? $0.

 

[bobsax]

:disgust:

How about the brand of mouthpieces called "Listen & Practice"? A size 8 maybe (units are in hours/day)? It's the most dependable and consistent mouthpiece I have ever played on. Guaranteed to make everyone sound the way they want to sound.

Oh, the price? $0.

This is of course true , but when you get to a certain level and have a strong command of your instrument I don't see a problem with getting the brand of mouthpiece that your favorite player uses and then sticking with it. That means no more shopping around just put hard work into getting your sound.
I just squeaked on my first Dukoff for the first week or so and it took years to get the sound I wanted.

 

[edhara]

I'm a big fan of metal Beechlers, myself.

 

[nitrobaby]

Well, I'm sure Phil used his Meyer for "Just the Way You Are."

now I can't get this song out of my head... thanks.