[TheAmoK]

I got these two moutchpieces long time ago with a SML tenor I bought.
They do not have any markkngs what so ever, and the white one has a crack and has been fixed with a glue and a metal band.
I would assume they are quite old, and with quite small tip opening.
Any additional things I should look or measure from these?
Is there any way to identify these, or should I leave them be "no name" mouthpieces?
Thanks!

 

[milandro]

the first looks like it may be a British made ROC ( Britone or other type?) although, if it was black I'd definitely say is a Lelandais (which made lots of mouthpieces for SML)

the second one appears to be an Amati mouthpiece ( similar to Berg Larsen may say) they generally have a fluted side ( where you probably slide that mouthpiece guard)

 

[TheAmoK]

Thanks milandro for the answer.
For sure I can see that it is not ROC Britone, as its missing the v-baffle.
The sides of the metal piece are straight, but the teeth guard is similar as in Berg Larsen, Meyer and Amati pieces. However rest of it really does not match any of those. At least the pictures I could find...

 

[milandro]

there were other types of ROC, also white

the amati mouthpieces exist in several variants, one has a ridge at the end of the shaft but they exist also just smooth, the bullet chamber was one of their characteristics, is there any size indication?

 

[TheAmoK]

There is no absolutely no markings on either one. I tried to see if there would have been some markings that were worn out, but could not see any. Just like it never had any engraivings or markings.
I saw picture of ROC fulltone, but that had a wide metal band on the end.

 

[milandro]

there were also without band but if this was made by them as a stencil may have been produced without, in anycase white mouthpieces were made by many, the SML would often come with Lelandais made mouthpieces ( one of the most prolific makes of stencils). The other one is more complex, only very very few made stainless steel mouthpieces and even less with a bullet chamber

 

[datsaxman]

Is that a stainless MP, or is it plated brass?

 

[turf3]

The white one looks like the plethora of white, and black, mouthpieces that were made from essentially the same molds (with minor variations in the shank shape) and sold as Brilhart, Buescher, Carl Bruno, King, etc., etc., etc., etc.

 

[Taragot]

The metal one could be, as other said, an Amati, B&S, Tunger - all kind of Berg Larsen replicas from Eastern Europe.