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I've an alto mouthpiece, that was refaced by presumably one of the best in the business and it has a rather pronounced bump on the facing curve. Now I'm not sure if this was meant to be, because the finish is really smooth.

The overall sound is actually very nice only low D and everything below doesn't respond well. There is a drastic difference when I change from Eb to D without articulating. I wonder if it has anything to do with the facing.

What do you refacers and mouthpiece specialists think?
 

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Ive never seen a facing like that. Sometimes there is what appears to be a "bump" or division at the beginning of the facing where it leaves the table but the location and prominence of this seems odd and likely to cause some significant issues in response and tone. Spots that high on a facing tend to lead to a harsh tone as well.

I would contact the person who did the work. If its intended I am interested in knowing why. Its not like any facing I have seen.
 

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I won't go into detail, but I already tried to make contact. I've seen a similar curve step on a lebayle mouthpiece so I wasn't sure how to deal with it. Anyone else has an opinion?
 

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That is too abrupt a discontinuity in the facing curve. It looks like they increased the tip opening but didn't blend it in with the rest of the facing. There is a fair amount of subjectivity involved when evaluating facing work, but the visual indication from your pictures goes well beyond subjectivity.

Either they forgot to finish their work or their repuation as one of the "best in the business" was vetted insufficiently.
 

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That is too abrupt a discontinuity in the facing curve. It looks like they increased the tip opening but didn't blend it in with the rest of the facing. There is a fair amount of subjectivity involved when evaluating facing work, but the visual indication from your pictures goes well beyond subjectivity.

Either they forgot to finish their work or their repuation as one of the "best in the business" was vetted insufficiently.
Thanks for sharing your opinion. There is a possibility of the work not being finished, since the facing after the curve is basically flat. On the other hand it's allready maked with the tip opening and signature and so on. Anyone else?
 

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I don't know but it was advertised as refaced by ... so I'd assume that the seller would mention any other "refacing".

I'll contact them again to get this sorted out.
 

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The good news is that it appears that the facing can be salvaged. The mouthpiece is not a doorstop yet.
 

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Some vintage Level Aire mouthpieces have a visible kink in the facing curve. Santy Runyon also wrote an article that mentions the existance of this type of facing curve on some clarinet mouthpieces.

But I agree with the others above that this is a mistake, not a feature.
 

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The "bumps" appear to be at uneven lengths also.
 

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Yup... Agreed all around, that looks awful! Ha! Bummer that it had to be your piece that was faced like that... I'm with EZ though, looks like it can definitely still be fixed up real nice. The curve is an extremely important part of the facing, smoothness and evenness are the names of the game in that department!
 

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Thanks for all your comments!
I bought another alto mouthpiece and it's response is far better, so it's clearly not the horns fault.

I'll let you know how this turns out.
 

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Is it possible that someone "worked" on it after the original facing was put on?
This person would be the "mouthpiece facing bumb." :lol:
 
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