[senior]

I presently play a Morgan Jazz 8M. I like it alot, but I believe it may be a little open for me. At time I lose control. I would like to try a 6L but can't find one. Thought Maybe there might be something close. Was looking at trying a Rovner SR. Is there anything else out there close to a Morgan 6L?:?

 

[Rackety Sax]

Which saxophone are we talking about: tenor, alto... ?

 

[senior]

Alto

 

[J.Max]

The Barone Jazz is fairly similar...they're both based on large chambered Meyers.

 

[patseguin]

Why don't you try a Morgan Jazz 6M? The L is a larger chamber I assume? I'm currently playing an Excalbur 6E and love it.

 

[nitrosax]

Morgan 6M should be the official mouthpiece that comes with the Reference 54! It pisses me off that a company invests so much time and energy in a horn only to put a crappy stock mouthpiece in the case when they sell it...Yamaha does this, Selmer does this...the two companies that have decent mouthpieces...Yani and Cannonball should be applauded...Especially Cannonball--the stock Cannonball mouthpiece is like a really good meyer...check it out...

 

[Chris Mickel]

If your morgan Jazz 8M is too open try some softer reeds. An 8 facing is huge, with one like that you can use softer reeds. That may save you some money. I have found out with my experience that you can get away with a big tip opening on tenor but not so much on alto.

For me on tenor I use mouthpieces that are around an 8*, but on alto I can't even come close to play on something that open. My alto mouthpieces are around a 6.

If you decide to get a new piece check out Phil Barone's alto pieces or the Legend by SR Technonogies (the hard rubber or the polycarbonite). Both the Sr Tech and the Barone are great.

Chris

 

[Dave Dolson]

Nitro: Before you rave negatively about mouthpieces, understand that not everyone thinks or plays the same way you do. For instance, my Ref 54 alto came with a very nice Selmer Super Session E. My only problem with it was that it wasn't as open as my SS-F I already had. So I gave my SS-E to someone who really liked it.

I Love my SS-F, one of the best alto pieces I've experienced - certainly not the "crap" that you alleged.

To answer senior, though, all I can report is that I have a number of pieces that play well FOR ME and play similarly to a Morgan-Bilger 6 piece I own . . . SS-F, Meyer 6S-M, Soloist F to name three.

Take all mouthpiece recommendations with a grain of salt. DAVE

 

[davevillajr]

On the Junkdude site, he's got Morgan 6L's. He offers a trial period as well.

Check 'em out.

http://www.junkdude.com

The rest is up to you.

dv

 

[king koeller]

I just received the Vintage Morgan 7 .080" hard rubber Alto piece from Junk
Dude and it was one of the last Morgan pieces he made. It really plays sweet!
I can't believe how powerful it is!!
Perfect for lead alto or solo jazz combo work with
Vandoren Java 3 1/2, Green box reeds, Mark VI, and string Hand tied ligature, with so much alive vibration in the sound.
The tone is fat, bubbly, clear, and pure with The right amount of edge and tonal expression. I can't put it down.
It's like Cannonballs New York Meyer !

 

[cfbugsbunny]

I think the laws of supply and demand have now caught up with Morgan Mouthpieces. They seemed to have jumped up in price at Junkdude's site by about $80-90. Still worth it though. I have purchased two Morgan Jazz mpc's from Junkdude and they are well worth the money. Sometimes you have to just wait though because of the popularity of the 6M,6L, 7M and 7L piece and not to mention the Excalibur pieces. Good luck. The wait is worth it.

 

[J.Max]

I think the laws of supply and demand have now caught up with Morgan Mouthpieces. They seemed to have jumped up in price at Junkdude's site by about $80-90. Still worth it though. I have purchased two Morgan Jazz mpc's from Junkdude and they are well worth the money. Sometimes you have to just wait though because of the popularity of the 6M,6L, 7M and 7L piece and not to mention the Excalibur pieces. Good luck. The wait is worth it.

There are a lot less of these being made...Brian and Erik have other things going on, plus Dave (at Junkdude) is now having to front all of the money himself to continue the Morgan line. Yes, he has bumped up the price, but I have a feeling that there is good reason for this.

 

[Martinman]

Morgan 6M should be the official mouthpiece that comes with the Reference 54! It pisses me off that a company invests so much time and energy in a horn only to put a crappy stock mouthpiece in the case when they sell it...Yamaha does this, Selmer does this...the two companies that have decent mouthpieces...Yani and Cannonball should be applauded...Especially Cannonball--the stock Cannonball mouthpiece is like a really good meyer...check it out...

Some people like the Selmer stock mouthpieces. Plus, if you are buying a pro horn, chances are you already have a good mouthpiece, or at least will be buying one to go with the horn, one that is good for you. Heck, if for some reason I decided to sell my Selmer and buy a Cannonball, the Cannonball stock piece would sit in box and I would still play my Meyer.

Although I certainly wouldn't mind my Selmer coming with a Morgan.

 

[saxphil]

There are a lot less of these being made...Brian and Erik have other things going on, plus Dave (at Junkdude) is now having to front all of the money himself to continue the Morgan line. Yes, he has bumped up the price, but I have a feeling that there is good reason for this.

What's the reason,beside the fact that others charge more?

 

[mlscnr]

The J&D Hite hard rubber is similar to the Morgan M chamber.

 

[king koeller]

What is in Ann Arbor?

I just moved back to America after 4 years in Japan,
what is all this confrontation between Ann Arbor and Ohio...?

Ralph Morgan was a fair and honorable guy.
All along, Morgan never charged what he should have, he was stuck back in the 1950's price wise...
One time I had him reface my Meyer Babbitt 6M, and he said no charge,
(1991) I had him reface my Otto Link Super tone master 7*, and he said, standard refacing fee, 25 dollars.
Meanwhile, Guardala was price gouging in the early 90's, more and more money for his pieces.($400,$500, $600, up and up) And look what happened to him, he finally got arrested in Germany for fraud and stealing money from 20 unsuspecting customers (totaling over 20,000 dollars!!).
Another guy who prices his pieces way too expensive is Gary Sugal.
(Founder of the Super Gonz).

 

[Martinman]

I just moved back to America after 4 years in Japan,
what is all this confrontation between Ann Arbor and Ohio...?

College football dude.

 

[J.Max]

I just moved back to America after 4 years in Japan,
what is all this confrontation between Ann Arbor and Ohio...?

Ralph Morgan was a fair and honorable guy.
All along, Morgan never charged what he should have, he was stuck back in the 1950's price wise...
One time I had him reface my Meyer Babbitt 6M, and he said no charge,
(1991) I had him reface my Otto Link Super tone master 7*, and he said, standard refacing fee, 25 dollars.
Meanwhile, Guardala was price gouging in the early 90's, more and more money for his pieces.($400,$500, $600, up and up) And look what happened to him, he finally got arrested in Germany for fraud and stealing money from 20 unsuspecting customers (totaling over 20,000 dollars!!).
Another guy who prices his pieces way too expensive is Gary Sugal.
(Founder of the Super Gonz).

I agree, especially the last line.

What I meant before about the reason for the price raise is that Dave is fronting all of the money himself, whereas before, I think it was a partnership between Ralph and Dave. Now that Dave has to put up all the money, they have to be more expensive because he's having to essentially pay double for materials and labor. Also, frankly, the Morgan pieces were WAY underpriced for a long time, probably because Ralph wanted to keep the prices down...now they are just keeping up with the market. That being said, Junkdude should have put up some sort of "warning" on his site before he raised prices as much as he did. (Like Saxquest did with the DeJacques strap.) It's nearly a 40% increase.

 

[saxphil]

I agree, especially the last line.

What I meant before about the reason for the price raise is that Dave is fronting all of the money himself, whereas before, I think it was a partnership between Ralph and Dave. Now that Dave has to put up all the money, they have to be more expensive because he's having to essentially pay double for materials and labor. Also, frankly, the Morgan pieces were WAY underpriced for a long time, probably because Ralph wanted to keep the prices down...now they are just keeping up with the market. That being said, Junkdude should have put up some sort of "warning" on his site before he raised prices as much as he did. (Like Saxquest did with the DeJacques strap.) It's nearly a 40% increase.[/QUOTE Thanks for your reply J m

Thanks for your reply.I didn't realize material cost had doubled.

 

[nitrosax]

Dave:

Point taken about the Selmer pieces...I`ve played Selmer pieces for 20 years as well...they are good pieces...Selmer does actually have nice pieces in with their new horns-- that`s more than the other companies can say...Now, if Selmer would just up their quality control to compare with some of the other big companies....

Ryan