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Well I've had this one for a while now.. its a 7 ... I have a HUGE problem with squeeking. I have NO CLUE why. I've gone through like 3 ligs.. and 3 different types of reeds. Once my toungue gets going, the squeeking begins. Any ideas?
 

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When I got my Excalibur I had the exact same problem. I found that the rovner dark clarinet ligature and rico jazz selects produce almost no squeaks. Currently I have a 5(much smaller, but still) but I've played on a 7 before and the RJS's are the way to go.
 

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man i have that rovner dark..and bleh.. it gets all gross and still squeeks.. So what about this eddie daniels II. I just don't know..i get a tremendous sound outta it, but the squeeks make me sound like a wuss lol.
 

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a fibracell cant squeek. i hated the excalibur too. this is a lousey mpc desighn. morgans other desighns are exceptional -the proper way to make a bright mpc is to add baffele -not subtract material from the mouthpeice body
 

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a fibracell cant squeek. i hated the excalibur too. this is a lousey mpc desighn. morgans other desighns are exceptional -the proper way to make a bright mpc is to add baffele -not subtract material from the mouthpeice body
"Proper"? One way is to add baffle, another is to thin out the body. The advantage of the latter is that the piece responds more like a low-baffled piece, i.e., more evenly from top to bottom, and doesn't thin out as much, but still has some of that buzz, brightness, and quick response associated with slim, high-baffled, metal pieces. Hence, Excaliburs are a great alternative to high-baffled pieces when playing with amplified instruments. And there actually is a fair bit of baffle in Morgan's pieces, it's just a rollover design rather than a high step.
 

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i disagree- if this is such a good desighn -why dosnt more mpcs makers do this? i hate the way the whole mpc vibrates in the mouth when playing the excalibur. its also not nearly bright enough . ralph was great at old school but clueless when it came to making a mpc for modern music . santy runyon -lakey and bobby dukoff and brillhart all adapted to modern times while ralph stubbornly stuck to old desighns
 

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I only have experience with my one excalibur, and it seems very versatile.
And with Ralph's vast experience, I would hesitate to say he was clueless when it came to making a mpc for modern music, and it actually seems harsh and disrespectful.
One may not like the Excalibur, but there are a few people using them for a variety of styles (jazz and pop).
 

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The Excaliber has a long facing. Long facing mouthpieces need a harder reed - even when they are open like the 7. Try a tenor reed on your alto Excaliber. That's a real experience.

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The Excaliber has a long facing. Long facing mouthpieces need a harder reed - even when they are open like the 7. Try a tenor reed on your alto Excaliber. That's a real experience.

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1. From an article by Ralph Morgan I got the impression all his pieces had medium facings. What's the basis for your assertion that the Excaliburs have a long facing?

2. A 7 by Morgan is more like a standard 6. Few people would characterize a Morgan 7 as a large tip opening. It's more like a medium-closed tip opening.
 

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Well I've had this one for a while now.. its a 7 ... I have a HUGE problem with squeeking. I have NO CLUE why. I've gone through like 3 ligs.. and 3 different types of reeds. Once my toungue gets going, the squeeking begins. Any ideas?
Yes. Get rid of it.
 

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Another thing about this piece, I kinda expected a bit FULLER more ballsy tone. Like it plays loud..obvioucly, but not as full as like a meyer or barone. I mean thats just my opinion. Anybody else with me on that? If so, any suggestions on a full LOUD mouthpiece?
 

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Another thing about this piece, I kinda expected a bit FULLER more ballsy tone. Like it plays loud..obvioucly, but not as full as like a meyer or barone. I mean thats just my opinion. Anybody else with me on that? If so, any suggestions on a full LOUD mouthpiece?
Sounds like you want the Morgan L chamber. The medium chamber Excaliburs are very focused to my ears.
 

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The regular excalibur series is advertised as a medium chamber but that chamber is closer to a meyer S chamber...so it's very focused and very projecting. The L chambers are closer to the "fat," "more spread" sound of a standard M chambered meyer.

And while everyone's comfort level is different, there is no question that the excalibur's design is top-shelf.
 

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oh yeah sinkdrain, the excalibur is top shelf.. Its a gorgeous design. Looks perfect all around. I really wish it coula worked. I have it in trade right now. If anybody interested. What do ya'll think about the EL. I understand it has the larger chamber. Would that be a more fat spread also? Would you compare the sound as loud as the E but a full larger tone (meyerish with power)?
 

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I play the 7E because the alto sound in my head is more focused (probably due to the fact that all my teachers played guardalas in the 80's). The 7EL has a bigger, less focused, fuller sound...they're both equal in terms of projection and volume. I think you would really feel comfortable on a 6EL.

The other thing to consider is the beak. The excalibur's slim beak will cause some players (who have a tendancy to bite) to bite even more...resulting in a thinner sound. If you suspect that that the slim beak is tricking your embouchure into a pinched position, you may find the regular jazz mouthpieces to be more comfortable. A 6M is exactly the same mouthpiece as the 6E only the 6M has a "normal" sized beak. A 6L is exactly the same mouthpiece as the 6EL only the 6L has a "normal" sized beak.
 

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Would you compare the sound as loud as the E but a full larger tone (meyerish with power)?
In general, yes. Though I think the Morgan L chamber is a little larger than a normal modern Meyer.
 

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No worries, I am with you on the Morgan altos---I tried every model and didn't really dig them. I love the tenor Morgans though, especially the excalibur. But they didn't do it for me on alto, too shallow of a sound. I have had better luck with the Vandoren V16 A8S. It seems to have the projection and oomph but more body to the sound--at least the one I have. I really wish I had found an alto morgan I liked--the rubber is so much better and I love how they play. But the sound just didn't click for me either on alto....
 

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I now watcha mean ving, it kinda sux, because i wanted to really play this thing. I'm now actually heading towards ur direction with the V16.. just not sure if i'm going with S or M.
 
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