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Yeah, sadly there are so many Ebay sellers that routinely over-rate the condition of things to try to make an extra buck. They are idiots that think buyers are bigger idiots. Half the time they are right but how do they sleep?
 

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Sellers Hype most of the time.
Mint condition is an expression used to denote the quality of a pre-owned good as displaying virtually no imperfections and being in pristine condition relative to its original production state. Originally, the phrase related to the way collectors described the condition of coins.
 

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There's seems to be a new use for the word along the lines of it being good or a good thing. So if someone has a nice find, they'll call it mint even though it's knackered and tatty.

With a bit of resurgence in LP sales a saw a few shops selling records that were all scuffed around the edge and looking very used. They kept describing these as Mint on the price label.

I don't think it's a good idea to use such terms that could be interpreted in different ways but some people seem oblivious to the original meaning.
 

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Is that a sticker on the back with patent numbers?
 

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Using terms like this on eBay is asking for trouble.
Particularly when buyers can return for no reason at all.
You can even state that an item is for parts and not working and some dimwhitted prick can return it on the grounds that it didn’t work.
There’s logic for you.
 

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MINT. a bush we use for tea or cooking!

yes,this MINT committee3 has a mike-bug in the neck,lacquer spotting,scratches.
but it doesn't have a resolder on the lowC# post,so it must be MINT!

Anyone for a cup of tea?
 

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As a kid growing up in NY during the 1980s...."mint" was the word we all used if something was "cool" or "bad" or "fye" or "dope" or whatever the kids are saying these days....
 

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Definitely not mint, but in good condition for 1954... especially a Martin, as their lacquer is notoriously prone to flaking off over time. And I wouldn't call it grossly overpriced, considering there are shops in N America selling Martins in worse shape than this for basically the same price. (Check vintagesax.com and Tenor Madness if you'd like)
 

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Does it have a chocolate coating on the bell? Can you play it after eight? Then it's got a mint interior although the exterior is not mint.
 

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Sellers Hype most of the time.
Mint condition is an expression used to denote the quality of a pre-owned good as displaying virtually no imperfections and being in pristine condition relative to its original production state.
I don't think that's quite right. It should mean no imperfections (as opposed to virtually no imperfections) and pristine condition, not relative to its original production state

It's a bit like the word virgin. There is no relatively or virtually a virgin. Or pregnant There is no relatively or virtually pregnant.

Mint means as new. Simple as that.
 

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Mint should only be used for something that looks brand new. This would be a time capsule horn that sat in a case unplayed or barely played for years. If it had a minor scratch or other imperfection you could call it near mint. This one on ebay is more in the "excellent" category. But just like everything else lately, it seems that if you say something over and over again, people believe it.
 

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My tech had a closet case Comm III for sale in his shop about 5 years ago. The lacquer was flawless and it had the sticker and it had me drooling. However, after playing it against my lousy relaq-job Comm III, mine was better sounding and I got over the cosmetically induced momentary GAS spasm. Remember, all this mint business only really pertains to looks and not how a sax plays. It may be important to collectors but not really to players IMO. Go for the tone and sound and not the bling, that's what matters.
 

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Remember, all this mint business only really pertains to looks and not how a sax plays. It may be important to collectors but not really to players IMO. Go for the tone and sound and not the bling, that's what matters.
Han Solo: "She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts, kid."
 
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