[Artem Zhulyev]

Hello everyone, I hope you are all well. Here you have a diminished scale sequence based on an idea by Michael Brecker.
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[sopsax]

Love it! Thanks so much.

 

[JL]

Good stuff! Thanks ffjay. The more material I have to practice during this 'shut down', the better...

 

[JL]

Just for fun, a quick analysis of this pattern (as I see it, anyway):

Obviously the pattern uses the C (and Eb, F#, A) 'half-whole' diminished scale.

Each 4-note grouping starts on the maj 3rd, then descends the min triad of A, F#, Eb, C, respectively.

So the first 4-note group on A is C# (maj 3rd) E C A (descending A min triad). Then likewise on F#, Eb, & C.

Just a way to describe the pattern. Obviously the notes in the pattern can also be related to the dom7b9 chords that fit. Hopefully that makes some sense and I'm sure there are other ways to analyze this (please correct me if I got anything wrong, ffjay). Of course, none of that matters as much as getting the phrase under your fingers to the point it can be played without any analysis going on. That's where the real work comes in and the only way it can be applied in 'real time!' It's going to take me quite a while.

 

[Artem Zhulyev]

Just for fun, a quick analysis of this pattern (as I see it, anyway):

Obviously the pattern uses the C (and Eb, F#, A) 'half-whole' diminished scale.

Each 4-note grouping starts on the maj 3rd, then descends the min triad of A, F#, Eb, C, respectively.

So the first 4-note group on A is C# (maj 3rd) E C A (descending A min triad). Then likewise on F#, Eb, & C.

Just a way to describe the pattern. Obviously the notes in the pattern can also be related to the dom7b9 chords that fit. Hopefully that makes some sense and I'm sure there are other ways to analyze this (please correct me if I got anything wrong, ffjay). Of course, none of that matters as much as getting the phrase under your fingers to the point it can be played without any analysis going on. That's where the real work comes in and the only way it can be applied in 'real time!' It's going to take me quite a while.

Yes, I think it is the simplest way to think about this pattern, at least while learn it.

 

[JL]

Yes, I think it is the simplest way to think about this pattern, at least while learn it.

I've been practicing it and yes, "while learning it" is an important caveat. Now that I'm finally getting it under my fingers and "in my ear", I'm starting to get where I can play it without any of that thinking getting in the way. Very cool sound and it's getting more familiar now. Got to get it down in the other two diminished scales too, of course. I really like that ii-V-I line (Gm7-C7alt-Fmaj) with the diminished pattern over C7alt.

Thanks again ffjay! I'm looking to work on stuff like this and really drill down on it during this stay at home time.